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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
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    I think you're reading far too deeply into it. Why shouldn't characters - both new and old - be at risk of being killed off? If anything, the game could do with killing off more to help counter the rather jarring plot armour that we see the Warrior of Light shrouded in. If not for NPC's dying then we'd literally just have a story where the hero wins at every turn, saves the day and everybody cheers as if nothing has changed. I, for one, prefer the gritty and realistic approach taken by the lore team and I really hope that they continue as they are now.
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    JeniLinsky's Avatar
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    C'mell Cordwainer
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Heldraconis View Post
    There is a female Miqo'te villain in the gladiator quests along with a male Midlander.
    While I agree with the rest of what you say, the female Miqo'te in the gladiator quests is incredibly negligable. She exists just to die, and her death has no visible impact on anyone. She shows up in one quest, makes you want to kill her, and then, boom, the very next quest you get to. No one makes any reference to her outside those two quests. No one swears vengeance over her bloody corpse. It's a damn waste.

    And what's with all the Miqo'te courtesans? Let someone else be the doxies for a while!
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  3. #53
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    Fenral's Avatar
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    W'fharl Tia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think you're reading far too deeply into it. Why shouldn't characters - both new and old - be at risk of being killed off?
    Because pretty much only new characters have ever been at risk, and usually in the same story that introduces them. These stories aren't conceived one episode at a time; writers tend to know exactly what they intend to do with a character when they're introduced, otherwise they wouldn't introduce them at all. If a character dies, or gets sealed away, at the end of the story that introduces them, that means that was the intended resolution for them from the start. If the world then spins on as if it never happened, and the other characters who were with you simply neglect to ever mention it again, then it means that character's resolution has served no narrative purpose whatsoever. It's a waste of a character.
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    KaijinRhada's Avatar
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    Jaou Stormchaser
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post

    There does seem to be a lack of miqote and(for now) au ra villains.
    There are a number of Miqo'te villains. Nhaza'a Jaab, Keeper of the Moon antagonist from the Beast Tribe lines. Couerl King, Keeper of the Moon South Shroud FATE boss (also mentioned in other quests and seen in a Postmoogle quest). H'raha Tia, Seeker of the Sun antagonist from the Monk 50-60 questline. Granted that Nhaza'a Jaab is so rarely seen because of the amount of work needed to get to his questline and Couerl King is now rarely done (on my server anyway). I would love to see more Moonies, but not as villains. >_>

    But yeah, not many Au Ra have been seen in comparison. We have a few allies (Yugiri, a couple of job quest NPCs that I won't mention, Mide), a vendor, one sort of antagonist? I haven't done enough white mage quests past 50 to see.
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    Raiya's Avatar
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    Raiya Li
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    Ragnarok
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Fendred View Post
    Technically, Nael was male. The one you encountered in FFXIV:ARR Binding Coil was a female clone of him.
    Nice health warning there on the side of Dalamud: Summoning Dalamud may cause cases of Red Eyes, Unexplained Superpowers that are useless against other players, Feeling like your the centre of the universe, urge to worship said moon and unwanted Gender Benders.
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  6. #56
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    RiceisNice's Avatar
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I think you're reading far too deeply into it. Why shouldn't characters - both new and old - be at risk of being killed off? If anything, the game could do with killing off more to help counter the rather jarring plot armour that we see the Warrior of Light shrouded in. If not for NPC's dying then we'd literally just have a story where the hero wins at every turn, saves the day and everybody cheers as if nothing has changed. I, for one, prefer the gritty and realistic approach taken by the lore team and I really hope that they continue as they are now.
    As my personal trainer Fray mentioned, "You can't save everyone."
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Interesting, mind if I ask for an official source? I've never heard that they're a separate race, pureblood sure, but with real world comparisons being 100% British/Australian or whatever doesn't separate you as a race entirely.
    Lucia, Nero, and Cid are all pureblood Garleans; they all have third eyes and white hair. It's definitely a distinct race.
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    Ayuh'ra Bajhiri
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    I demand more Duskwight.

    That is all.
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    Nestama's Avatar
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    Nestama Eynfoetsyn
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Lucia, Nero, and Cid are all pureblood Garleans; they all have third eyes and white hair. It's definitely a distinct race.
    But still mostly Hyur in appearance. I can easily see them being the third clan for Hyurs: Midlander, Highlander and Garlean.
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    VargasVermillion's Avatar
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    Val Vermillion
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Miqo'te is probably the closest to Hyur out of the races. Even then, their faces look quite a bit different, along with their ears and tail, that sets them apart further than the third eye. They're also classified as different races by SE, while the Garleans don't seem to be from what I can recall.
    There isn't much mention of garleans in general, Cid even mentioned not many people actually know about them and just assume garlemald is another hyur nation. Garleans as mentioned cannot use magic and it's mentioned on the website talking about the garlean empire and confirmed in a lore Q&A at one of the fan fests. They all have a third eye, Aryan features (so far), seem to be taller than highlanders or as tall and an inability to use magic hence why they focus so much on technology.
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