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    My thoughts on a change to Monks Meditation (Chakra) System

    This has been looming on my head for quite some time now, so here's a thought. Instead of spamming the button 5 times to get your stacks, wouldn't it be better to just make it work like the way Wrath/Abandon stacks work for Warriors? You gain a stack every time GL is activated, specific oGCD moves like Internal Release and Elixir Field grant a stack and Meditation grants 5 stacks immediately and sits on a cooldown. The main benefit of this is that you can use The Forbidden Chakra a lot more which will help tremendously with DPS checks (I'm looking at you A3 Savage Equal Concentration phase) and just DPS in general, and Purification can actually become viable. It'll allow for more flexibility when using these 2 skills.

    I don't think this will make Monk OP at all, in fact I say that they need a boost since they can't do as much potential damage as Dragoons and don't bring in as much utility as a Ninja.

    What do you guys think?
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    Flo Fyloord
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    Adds too much damage to their overall toolkit the way it is; their moveset would have to be changed accordingly. Monks already do relatively high damage compared to most of the classes, and thats without forbidden chakra on every 15th~ GCD (rather it requires wind up time from downtime phases where the monk, and other dps, cant hit anything at all)
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    Naesala L'arachel
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Maybe make it so that if you refresh GL3 (and only then) you get a stack. Maybe a 50% chance for one or something, RNG would be fine in this case. Still builds off of momentum and offers a slight DPS increase to glose the gap to DRG.
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    Yeah that sounds pretty good too. A proc system can definitely work, and giving stacks to the player when only GL3 is refreshed should make that state even more important than it already is.
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyBean94 View Post
    Yeah that sounds pretty good too. A proc system can definitely work, and giving stacks to the player when only GL3 is refreshed should make that state even more important than it already is.
    I don't think MNK needs RNG added on to it.
    But getting a stack every refresh after hitting GL3 is a cool idea and would still space out the stacks well.

    One QoL change I'd really like is for Form Shift to grant a Meditation stack (if you're not at five already) as well.
    Probably won't happen since you get Form Shift before Meditation but that would add some synergy rather than the two competing for your empty (no-target) GCDs.
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    Madd Rox
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    Could make it grant 5 stacks upon losing GL3 , Monk is gonna lose GL3 on a down phase anyways either by using TK or not being able to refresh it normally why not have it grant FC for the next round of dps ? .. really just saving the player from spamming the keys between phases, but keep it spammable out of combat so you can charge it up before the fight.
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    Last edited by Maddrox; 08-18-2015 at 03:32 AM.

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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    I'd rather it be off gcd and instant 5 stacks. 60 seconds would be the minimum as most fights have transitions around 1-2 min mark which is normally when I start thrust pumping while from shifting.
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    I don't think there will be any changes to meditation. Last live letter we had I posted all the great ideas from the monk community and all of them were decline. I mention the above topic as well on how we can gain chalra similar to warrior gains wrath. And nothing. If there was ever a change to chakra will prolly be just insted of 5 stacks they might lower it to 3 stack. I think this will be our best bet. At least with with 3 even being as a gcd we can charge in between WS.
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    I would have preferred it if it had its own cooldown (like NINs Mudra) separate from gcd. To make it not too op give it like over 2.5s cooldown
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    Meditation's purpose is to give something for MNKs to do during downtime(s). It's not great, I'll admit that, but its purpose is pretty clear.

    It's not meant to be a rotational ability. The potential dmg of MNKs is not very much off a DRGs (10-30ish DPS in equally skilled hands). Forbidden Charka's popping out non-stop would be obscene.
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