I hope Yoshi-P will not listen to all those immature requests.

[Onidemon]

^I wholeheartedly agree. It's a shame how popular this thread is considering the title...

"Won't fit into a world" is kind of a weak argument as far as jumping goes. lol
Considering people can jump and climb over obstacles irl... it actually seems less immersive to me when I'm stuck near a 2ft ledge in XI or XIV and I can't jump over it. I CAN SLAY MIGHTY BEASTS, CAST MAGIC AND BRING PEOPLE BACK FROM THE DEAD but oh this tiny ledge is too much for me. =(

...You see what I'm saying? lol

Well if i had a boring and respectful title this thread would have fallen to the last page within minutes.... But with this, it sure fueled a lot of flame and talking.... got the thread to be over 6K views and moderators posted too!

It's two important topics and we got SE's attention with this thread.. if it wasn't for the title it would never have got there. Sorry if you felt offended.

[Shelia]

Nah, I feel like the thread would've gotten attention otherwise if there was good content inside. But you know.

[MysteryG]

"Won't fit into a world" is kind of a weak argument as far as jumping goes. lol
Considering people can jump and climb over obstacles irl... it actually seems less immersive to me when I'm stuck near a 2ft ledge in XI or XIV and I can't jump over it. I CAN SLAY MIGHTY BEASTS, CAST MAGIC AND BRING PEOPLE BACK FROM THE DEAD but oh this tiny ledge is too much for me. =(

I do see your point, and it makes quite a bit of sense. When I said it wouldn't fit well in the world, I was referring more to the sets of invisible walls in place, and general style of movement already in the game. They would have to go over all of the present zones, remove these limitations, and create rules for falling big distances and taking damage. It's a much bigger project than simply making a button on your keyboard link to an animation on screen.

As far as the lore side of it goes, our inventories are how big?! I think it would be kinda hard to jump even an inch carrying 5 or 6 stacks of lumber or ore, let alone entire sets of armor. I suppose at the end of the day, that's what makes fiction and fantasy fun and exciting though. I've always appreciated that Final Fantasy at least tried to operate within reasonable limits. Ex, Killing that crawler probably won't yield gil or that giant 4-handed sword of the monkey you've been after.

Thanks for making my brain work! I think there's value on either side of it. I still think SE has much better things to be working on than jumping.

[Shikyo]

I see great things for this thread's future.

i see ppl saying the same thing and i agree i dont want spam jumping in ffxiv and i damn sure dont want open world pvp. If u wanna jump up and down and pk ppl like in wow.... why not just freakin play wow.... I like the lore and sophistication associated with ff online that i have not seen in any other mmorpg and i dont think that the 2 things open pvp or just spam jumping all over fits at all, I'm sure that alot would say the same wanna spam jump and pk ppl... blizzard has a over hyped cartoony game built just for that XD.... some form of a jump system for small elevations or drops in the terrain sure, i think all would say fine. If you ever played ffxi you know the statement "It just wouldn't fit" makes perfect sense.... this game was ment to be different than that yes but the majority of the xiv community are former or current xi players....that crap would just be awkward and ff online players i think want more co-operative social based pve play, where you and your ls mates get a feeling of unity and accomplishment of having overcome large feats together instead of the solo satisfaction pvking gives e-dick battlers. or maybe its just me =/

[Seif]

I saw the title and skipped the entire wall of text. The writer of the OP needs his mommy to spank him for sneaking online again.

Move on people.

[Shelia]

Thanks for making my brain work! I think there's value on either side of it. I still think SE has much better things to be working on than jumping.

I agree... hahaha

They need to make FFXIV an actual game and less of a demo before they even consider implementing the jumping feature.

[OmegaNovaios]

Personally I love PVP, both 1v1 and party PVP, but in FF I am against open world PVP even in "contested" regions. Being able to have a friendly duel with a rival is great and group PVP in FFXI like Brenner and Ballista is awesome (if you can find enough players for it) but I think the current community of past FFXI fans and the new generation of fans would appreciate both since it would not interfere with any current game play elements or character progression.

As for jumping I can live without it, but it would be nice to have if there was a 5 or 10 second cool down timer on the action so people could jump over tiny obstacles that would otherwise require players to inconveniently run around and this would also prevent people from spamming which I know would annoy some people.

[Onidemon]

I do see your point, and it makes quite a bit of sense. When I said it wouldn't fit well in the world, I was referring more to the sets of invisible walls in place, and general style of movement already in the game. They would have to go over all of the present zones, remove these limitations, and create rules for falling big distances and taking damage. It's a much bigger project than simply making a button on your keyboard link to an animation on screen.

As far as the lore side of it goes, our inventories are how big?! I think it would be kinda hard to jump even an inch carrying 5 or 6 stacks of lumber or ore, let alone entire sets of armor. I suppose at the end of the day, that's what makes fiction and fantasy fun and exciting though. I've always appreciated that Final Fantasy at least tried to operate within reasonable limits. Ex, Killing that crawler probably won't yield gil or that giant 4-handed sword of the monkey you've been after.

Thanks for making my brain work! I think there's value on either side of it. I still think SE has much better things to be working on than jumping.

When a video game is too realistic it breaks all the fun and the game. We can carry 100 types of items and stacks of 99 oh each of these items. imagine how big the bag must be? or that is no doubt to heavy for a human being to carry....

Fantasy worlds are not about reality. Video games even less.... there's so much you cannot fit with reality.

[Rawry]

Can you stop posting in hot red please? Thanks.

Hot red or not.. he makes a good point. Most of the people crying on these forums about jumping and world PVP are butt hurt anti-WoW idiots, who like to live up their own arses and will bash WoW no matter what. Heaven forbid people admit that wow has/had some amazing ideas.

Its not the Number 1 MMO for no reason. =)

[Rawry]

^I wholeheartedly agree. It's a shame how popular this thread is considering the title...

"Won't fit into a world" is kind of a weak argument as far as jumping goes. lol
Considering people can jump and climb over obstacles irl... it actually seems less immersive to me when I'm stuck near a 2ft ledge in XI or XIV and I can't jump over it. I CAN SLAY MIGHTY BEASTS, CAST MAGIC AND BRING PEOPLE BACK FROM THE DEAD but oh this tiny ledge is too much for me. =(

...You see what I'm saying? lol

^This ....