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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Would you agree with open world PVP if they gave you an option to switch your PVP flag on or off? That way went it is off people will not be able to attack you.
    I would def agree to that if when you turned your pvp flag on it locked you for x amount of hours. So you would not have people constantly switching back and fourth.
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    Open World PvP im more than positive they wont have in the game. FF games aren't about people fighting each other and killing each other just for fun. It will also raise the issue of making a PvP server. FF games however have competitions where groups rival each other for sport(blitzball ffX). In Eorzea im sure it will be arena fights(or instanced) for single/party fights. The player will not be killed but KOed until only the opposition is left standing. I Feel there should be official tournaments at least twice a month for single/party. The winners for those divisions should be given a label so everyone will know who are the said Champions until the next Official Tournament. There should also be a gil reward based on the amount of people that payed the entry fee and/or the Champions get to choose between a buff. I would suggest the buff be about 5% at most. So the Champions can really have something to brag about while creating a reason for people to try to kick them off their high horse. Also, friends or whoever can start battles but just for fun whenever the official Tournament isn't about to start.


    edit: This is the kind of posts Yoshi-P would like to see based on the notice sent. People should start giving more ideas instead of more pages of the same back and forth.
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    Last edited by Akumu; 03-13-2011 at 04:50 AM.
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  3. #193
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    This isn't like.. Runescape. People normally stay on their own server unless there is like a once a year server transfer like there was in XI. I doubt there will be open world pvp on specific servers due to this reason.. most likely it will be a ballista-type situation where you can enter the Colosseum to fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartel View Post
    Open world PvP is a nuissance. It causes griefing and discourages low level players because there is ALWAYS some jerk who just sits in the lowbie areas and repeatedly kills players all day long. Then, those low level players get pissed off and either quit, or when they get high enough do the same thing to new players in an endless cycle.
    I agree with you on this. This has happened in other mmos with open world pvp, so there shouldn't be any real indication that this particular mmo is going to be excluded...given if Yoshida-san allowed such a pvp system. Though thankfully, he isn't.
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    I hope you guys realize what would happen if the developers put PVP into this game in an open world form. This game would die so fast it will make your head spin. But for those who want PVP it will only be acceptable to do that in an arena style for example, Bob challenges Dan to a duel, Dan accepts the challenge and they are both transported to an arena where they can beat the piss out of each other and maybe other players can watch from the stands. The best part about this is nobody gets griefed or "corpse camped" if you don't know what corpse camping is go play WOW on a PVP server LOL. This way the people who want to PVP can do that and enjoy it and the rest of us who don't like PVP and don't want high level douchebags killing us and camping our dead bodies will also be happy.
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    They shouldn't add jump because it's a waste of development time for better things.


    There I said it.
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Greetings everyone. FFXIV Producer/Director Yoshida has posted some comments related to PvP and your discussion about it in general. Please take a look at what he has to say and keep his comments in mind!
    I hav to say that this is exciting news.

    My thoughts on pvp would include arena style pvp where players register at the arena and can pick who they want to fight. One on one, or party vs party. Or be setup in a match making type setup.

    The other thoughts would be a senecio setup where players are placed on teams. And the gameplay could be one of a few things:
    Capture the flag. Players play this classic game.
    Capture the bases or forts. Hold the location (as many as you can) and vet points for doing so. The team to reach the point goal, wins.
    Or hold the fort/invade the fort - one team must hold on the invasion of the other team. With a time limit, but the team to complete their objective wins.

    Another type of pvp I would love to see would be some type of card game. In the past ff games there have been some good examples, so I won't pick one here. But being able to collect, trade, and play other players in game with your deck of cards would be a fun pvp setup. And the winner gets a card from the other players deck. To keep it civil players would be able to challenge NPCs in the world if they didn't feel like playing another player.

    The real point of pvp should have some weight, be that fame, and gear, something that rewards the player for doing so, but doesn't punish those who do not wish to play. So any gear that comes from pvp would have two levels of stats. Normal stats, and "pvp" stats that are only active when in a pvp event.

    I like the idea of allowing people to "spectate" and cheer, I think that would make it a fun way of getting everyone involved.

    The other thing pvp needs to be is accessible. It should be easy to get into a pvp event. So I would vote that pvp events like the scenario event I talked about above would have an active "queue" that players could place themselves in. When the event is ready, players in the queue would be prompted to join the event, or skip until the next one is ready. They should be setup in tiers. So players rank 1-11 would be grouped together, 12-21, 22-31, 32-41, and 42 - 50 would be grouped together. To make it a little more fair, while in a pvp event, all players should be ranked at the top level rank for their tier. Meaning, if you were rank 32 and got into the event, you would get a stat buff of 41 (as would other players). You would only get the level stats, but no skills, or armor buffs, but that would put everyone on a base level. After the event you would return to your current rank/level set of stats.

    I don't know if players should get sp/xp but I would like to get it for playing. But it would be fun if we didnt get sp/xp if we got some form of pvp xp that unlocked pvp abilities and traits only to be used in pvp events.

    All in all, I think pvp if made accessible, is a fun thing to do for some players, I for one would love to see some of my ideas added. Thanks for listening, and I hope you, your team, and your families are ok. Our prayers are with you and we hope everyone is safe.
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  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    As i posted above, an arena type of PVP with other players being able to watch and cheer would be fun. Also to make sure people don't just forget about it with time it would be nice if it awards some items or armors/weapons.... Makes your character gain some type of reputation or fame.


    Any one else has some cool suggestions?
    That one will put a good use to the Colosseum in Uldah. Also some kind of sport would be cool too, like.... Blitz ball lol
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    I have a feeling that no matter what SE does for PvP, nobody will be happy. lol

    I say they should just have PvP in a Colosseum type setting, like brenner/ballista in FFXI but without the game/scoring points part of it (unless people actually like that type of thing). Alternatively, they could also make a game out of PvP. Personally, I just want a place where I can face off against my friends whenever I feel like it. lol

    Ideally I want simple PvP where I can choose just one VS one combat and team VS team options.


    As far as jumping goes... I'm all for it. I hate feeling like I'm glued to the ground, you know? =\
    I was thinking the best way to do this would be similar to Fable II/ Ocarina of Time, where you find a point of interest (cliff, fence) and you press an action button to haul yourself over it, or it happens automatically.
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    Last edited by Shelia; 03-13-2011 at 10:49 AM. Reason: forgot to mention jumping lawlzerus
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    bump............
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