I hope Yoshi-P will not listen to all those immature requests.

[Onidemon]

There is a lot of debate about adding certain features to the game such as Jumping and PVP.

I will take those 2 for now as they are the most popular but it can be applied to other topics.

For those against Jumping, I respect your opinion and all but so far i have not seen a single reasonable argument not to add Jump to the game. The crazy thing is that in a post from Yoshi-P on the japanese forums he said he saw that people mostly are for adding a jump option but don't want a WOW style spamming and that he will take that into consideration when implementing it.

What i have against this approach is that i don't see how "I don't want WOW jumping monkeys running around Eorzea..." is a valuable argument. It's like making a petition to force SE to remove emote because people are abusing it. And no Jumping does not break immersion cuz if it does, a dozen other things already in the game have the potential of doing the same so let's all remove it right?

Is it really normal or the mature thing to do to completely dismiss a feature because few people are abusing it? The same thing could be said about a billion other things and i'm sorry but to me it makes no sense.

PVP is another example. Open world PVP will never happen and that is because too many people are against PK. Why? Because a few morons camped your ass and killed you over and over in WOW? I mean for me personally... when something like that happened i just called for backup and it was fun to give these people a taste of their own medecine and see them run away. Yes Yes i know, FF is a PVE game mainly but i don't think that most of you realize how well done PVP can be really fun and honestly make us interact with one another even more.

To those against open world PVP i propose this....

Cities and the areas around are neutral grounds. No PVP can take place there unless it is friendly duels initiated by both players/parties. Other areas could be contested territories and this is were open PVP and PK can take place... but wait! for those who don't like that, SE can add a on/off PVP flag option. Turning on the option means you are open to PVP and can be attacked by players from opposing..."companies?" turning it off means you are neutral and do not want to take part in that aspect of PVP.(Nobody can attack you)

Wouldn't this please those who are against it? I mean with that system you can't give me the argument of "i don't want to be attacked while farming" Those who wish for open world PVP will be happy too. There is absolutely no negative impact for those against open world PVP so if you disagree with me please give me a valuable argument.. same goes for jumping.

[Malakhim]

I see great things for this thread's future.

[Neptune]

I see great things for this thread's future.

lol.

@ OP though, thanks I agree with you completely!

[Shikyo]

I see great things for this thread's future.

i see ppl saying the same thing and i agree i dont want spam jumping in ffxiv and i damn sure dont want open world pvp. If u wanna jump up and down and pk ppl like in wow.... why not just freakin play wow.... I like the lore and sophistication associated with ff online that i have not seen in any other mmorpg and i dont think that the 2 things open pvp or just spam jumping all over fits at all, I'm sure that alot would say the same wanna spam jump and pk ppl... blizzard has a over hyped cartoony game built just for that XD.... some form of a jump system for small elevations or drops in the terrain sure, i think all would say fine. If you ever played ffxi you know the statement "It just wouldn't fit" makes perfect sense.... this game was ment to be different than that yes but the majority of the xiv community are former or current xi players....that crap would just be awkward and ff online players i think want more co-operative social based pve play, where you and your ls mates get a feeling of unity and accomplishment of having overcome large feats together instead of the solo satisfaction pvking gives e-dick battlers. or maybe its just me =/

[JillianNekonia]

Far as jumping ehh don't care either way it's nice to have but won't make or break the game in any way why this is such an issue is beyond me but meh... PVP oooo now that is another barrel of monkeys my friend.

I personally don't partake in PVP and more than likely never will so having an area be open PVP unless its some kind of arena sounds annoying last thing I want to be doing is trying to walk to an area just to explore it and get sniped by some high Rank gooch face thinking it would be funny to kill me and make me home point. That said I also realize people crave it like meth heads crave... well meth. So I am all for a duel style system as long as I can turn it off and on like you have stated. Not everyone likes PVP so those that do like it should be open minded to the people that don't and vice versa. As long as it's a duel style system you guys can go on killing each other till the sky splits and rains down donuts onto the earth for all I care.

so long story short I like your conclusion and as a hater of PVP I agree with you good Sire. ^^

[Kurokikaze]

I disagree with open world PvP for reasons not stated in the OP - its a nightmare to balance that and PvE.

You mentioned "contested territories" so you must've played WoW... Do you know what "the spec of the month" is? The constant re-balancing that Blizzard does because they nerf an overpowered ability in PvP and in doing so cripples the class in PvE or vice-versa. This has been a never-ending cycle since I started in BC and its not something I want to go through in FFXIV. I believe that the approach that SE used with Ballista in FFXI is best because any PvP changes were restricted to just during Ballista. All they have to do is make it way more fun than that was.

PvP in a controlled arena environment - bring it on. Though I think they should fix the battle system in general and broken classes before they even start considering that. Otherwise it'll be a mess.

Jumping/Swimming I'm all for but they need a purpose and mechanics. Puzzles, combat elements, questing etc needs to use it. Don't give us that just to have it.

[Kilta_Firelotus]

Not to cause a fight, but immersion keeps getting mixed up with realism. Immersion means how you interect with in a world not your own. Realism is making stuff realistic. We are heros (or villians) we are suppose to do "super human things" Like cast spells and fight giant monsters. It would be kinda stupid to not jump high. It makes the characters look weak if they can't jump more then say 3 inches. More so with Miqo'te, which are cat like humans. Cats themselves have super human jump abilities. Games are not meant to be untra realistic. We should do thing we wouldn't normally or couldn't do.

Also an auto jump isn't always the best choice. It is easy to get stuck in a jump loop. I've done it in ever zelda game from OoT and ff7 and ffxiii. It can be annoying and time consuming.

[Jibe]

Also an auto jump isn't always the best choice. It is easy to get stuck in a jump loop. I've done it in ever zelda game from OoT and ff7 and ffxiii. It can be annoying and time consuming.

I wasn't advocating auto-jump, I was saying that there would be certain "hot-spots" that would allow jump to function if you pressed the button. A hot spot would be pretty much any obstacle you might jump over such as a ledge, shrub etc. where you were within 10 feet of it or something like that.

[Onidemon]

I wasn't advocating auto-jump, I was saying that there would be certain "hot-spots" that would allow jump to function if you pressed the button. A hot spot would be pretty much any obstacle you might jump over such as a ledge, shrub etc. where you were within 10 feet of it or something like that.

As per Yoshi-P's reply in the Jap forums.. the Jump feature will probably be exactly as you described it. Semi-freedom is better then no freedom i guess.

[Jibe]

PvP is a very touchy subject. My personal opinion is they should create open world PvP only on specific servers. Should still be able to duel and stuff (Arena combat) on any server, but otherwise keep it on its own server. If they do decide to do that they should give players the option to migrate to the PvP servers for free for a certain time period after they bring them online.

I do think that an arena combat system would be cool, with rewards that are unobtainable anywhere else. The grouped arena combat in WoW was pretty fun for the most part and it is a good concept. Just keep open world PvP on its own server. Thank you.