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    Donjo's Avatar
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanier View Post
    I smell exploit material there
    The damage incurred by leaving the stance kills the exploit.
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    StouterTaru's Avatar
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    Stouter Taru
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    The damage incurred by leaving the stance kills the exploit.
    That and the 15 second timer each direction
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    Comrade_uri's Avatar
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    Maximilien Dufort
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 100
    This thread is full of win lol
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    FridgePanic's Avatar
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    Zycam Rathis
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 60
    So pop Thrill of Battle and Second Wind then
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    Maximilien Dufort
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    Omega
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    Warrior Lv 100
    We have to waste a CD and put in a skill from another class?

    My god and ppl think PLD is broken!?

    SE FIX THIS PLEASE OR I WILL HAVE TO UNSUB AND CRY!!!
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    Talya Stormbreaker
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Are you kidding with this? In dps we already have as much health as the other tank. Swap, pop Equilibirum, and tank up good sir. Throw in Thrill of Battle if you're feeling really insecure.
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    Phoenicia's Avatar
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    Naomi Enami
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Donjo View Post
    Well... is it really that 5%? Or is it the fact that Spells are enhanced by Defiance but Abilities aren't?
    It is both, the 5% causes a 4% effective healing disparity with spells (If you're wondering how 5% = 4%, by receiving 5% less "increased" healing, WAR receives 4% less effective healing than PLD/DRK). Abilities are a new thing since they were percentage of HP and affected WAR the same as PLD, but were changed to potency based in HW. They are simply 25% less effective on a WAR in defiance than PLD/DRK in their tanks stances.

    Quote Originally Posted by bounddreamer View Post
    Are you kidding with this? In dps we already have as much health as the other tank. Swap, pop Equilibirum, and tank up good sir. Throw in Thrill of Battle if you're feeling really insecure.
    Again, so it's okay for WAR to swap and pop 2 CDs (3 oGCD actions) to get the effect of what the other tanks spend 1 GCD on?

    I'm not saying Defiance is broken, I'm saying we're paying a price for it being oGCD. And all stances on the tanks are balanced as is. But if the other tanks want their stance removed from the GCD, then we should also gain the same effect (immediate increase of 25% eHP without requiring additional heals/CDs) switching into Defiance. Fair is fair!
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    Last edited by Phoenicia; 08-18-2015 at 05:02 AM.

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    Character
    Kalma Harbinger
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Wait so warriors are going to bitch about stance dancing... when it comes with not resource cost? Pld have a min cost in MP but has to unclick current stance to apply the other stance. Drk has to burn 1/3 of total MP pool to turn on our only stance which is tank stance.
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    Einheri Sigurd
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 60
    In 3.1 they are adding a damage taken penalty to dps stances cause they hate you!
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    Character
    Repoe Zessed
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
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