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    If you could have actually bothered to add something worthwhile without stooping to insulting people, you might have "clearly" understood what was being said because not once did I say that this was an excuse for a pet user to not manage their pets. Clearly. My hat is off to you.
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    Last edited by Saggo; 09-29-2015 at 04:58 AM.

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    How about this: I'm a human, ill heal humans. Eos/Selene is a summon, make it so they can heal the pets, problem solved. Sorry whm. Least you get medica 2...
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    Liaysa Sineos
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    Summoner could definetly benefit from a tweak to sustain. I don't want to see the potency go up, but rather, would like to see the cost get changed.

    NOW, this doesn't mean that the healers should slack on trying to keep up pets. No matter how you slice it, it is a -DPS LOSS- to lose a pet, wether it be egi or turret, as well, it is a -DPS LOSS- to use sustain whenever its available. You can say its a fast cast or w/e you want, but it costs you one global. It adds up if your using it during any form of uptime in a 10-13 minute encounter. So if you think you're being cool by not healing pets, you're being foolish. It's a shared responsibility between healers and pet owner, which is why I think sustain should be changed.
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Pets are direct responsability of their masters. A good smn will 1) choose the best egi for each fight; 2) place his pet correctly and 3) sustain it when needed. Keeping your pet alive is the same as dodging visible AoEs on the ground, Egi's an extension of its master and the master has to manage it, period. As a SCH, I have better things to do than healing an Egi...like outdpsing 90% of the dps jobs I find in DF, for example.
    Having said that, I can agree on a slight buff to sustain, even though I've neved felt the need for it, even in A2S when my fairy occasionaly gets hit by the Doll's ranged aoe.
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    Last edited by Lastelli; 10-06-2015 at 06:21 PM.

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    Summoner could definetly benefit from a tweak to sustain. Wether it be off of the GCD or changing the potency of the heal itself.

    NOW, this doesn't mean that the healers should slack on trying to keep up pets. No matter how you slice it, it is a DPS LOSS to lose a pet, wether it be egi or turret, as well, it is a DPS LOSS to use sustain unless during downtime. It has a fast cast, but it costs you a GCD. It adds up if your using it during any form of uptime in a 10-13 minute encounter. So if you think you're being cool by not healing pets, you're being foolish. It's a shared responsibility between healers and pet owner, which is why I think sustain should be changed.
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    Last edited by Nyghtmarerobu; 01-11-2016 at 04:11 AM.

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    Just make it so that pets don't get those long, long dot debuffs in the first boss of void ark, because nobody will ever heal a pet and then you have to sustain it for a million years. Literally the only fight I've ever had trouble keeping a pet alive on, and it's rare.
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    A buff to Sustain I can understand, but this implication that Healers are to blame if the SMN loses their pet is hilarious. Part of the job requirement includes pet management, and you're given tools to achieve this.
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