Is anyone else disappointed by the lack of Long Term Goals?

[Azurymber]

One of the great things about FFXI was that you could work towards something for a year, get it, and use it for like 3 to 4 years without it becoming obsolete.
You felt like you accomplished something, and it was often something fairly unique.

For the most hardcore players, there were super-rare items that only a few people were able to acquire per server (until just before xiv 1.0).

In 1.0, relic weapons were a serious grind. Yet with the release of 2.0 they became a joke to get, and quickly become obsolete. The set of following quests were once again a ridiculous grind. And once again, they have become obsolete with the release of 3.0.

While I understand the point of making things obsolete is to keep people playing, I really wish there were 1 or 2 things that I could work toward in the long-run (like a legendary weapon that remains legendary)

I don't count housing as on many servers (including mine) there are no longer any available. And I don't count gold saucer, as the large rewards are either meaningless (e.g. cloud card), or not 3.0 compatible (Fenrir and Adamantoise unable to fly).

While things like tetra master and chocobo racing exist, they don't seem to have any actual rewards. Best you get from choco racing is a helmet for glamour (which looks the same as one I have from 1.0). And there are no real benefits to tetra master, other than getting MGP.

What I'm missing is a "super" item I can spend 2 to 3 years working towards, as opposed to a "new" item I can spend a week working towards every new major patch.

[OPneedNerfs]

A 2-3 year grind followed by nothing to look forward to in terms of gear upgrades for another year or so does not and will not work with this game and its community in general.

People are already complaining about a 3 week minimum to get an eso weapon, what dya think would happen if it was 2-3 years?

The main focus of PvE and endgame has been and will continue to be gear-grinds that eventually change to glamor options. The community is based largely of casuals/semi-casuals that expect rewards/upgrades ASAP for doing content.

Tl;dr wouldn't work thanks to how the game has been which led to how the community is.

[Stormrider]

Can we not agree that FFXI was held together by a very dedicated fan base? That it only grew after adding new platforms. We got new servers with North American launch. CoP dud treasures new server added with xbox community. While I had hoped that Heavensward would dramatically increase the player base to justify new servers. We did not see enough new players. All the reviews I read praised it but it had not been a fresh start.

The days of horizontal progression is gone. Unless you want a purely glamour item. Then i see no reason to complain. But anything that has any relevance to progression should be reset in the current model.

[UltimateAoe2]

Unfortunately, it's catered to (please excuse me for using this word) "Casuals".

Then, you have the type of people who want everything in the game, and then suggest devs to nerf stuff to the ground.



It's not fun, but...they can't please everyone.

[Kazama]

I think just about everyone coming from the likes of FFXI are going to feel somewhat the same with the exception of FFXI's ultra casuals. It's sad and I totally agree but I think it's pretty pointless to even present these kinds of concerns, FFXIV is just not made for those of us who got to experience horizontal MMOs at their beginning. It's made to appeal more to the newer generation that have been spoon fed things like DLC costumes and cosmetic alterations for years. I think our best hope unfortunately is going to come from Korea with Blade and Soul and Black Desert on the horizon. We can have hopes for EQ Next and a few others but those are likely quite far off.

[ServerCollaps]

kill 5.000 people in pvp for the "hand of mercy" title
get all jobs to 60
get all luminary tools
get all TT cards
get a rank 20 choco
earn 10.000.000 gil by doing leves for the "honest gillionaire" title
max a racing chocobo
catch all fish
farm 3.000 commendations for the pope chocobo

etc etc

there are countless things in this game which are endless time consuming and often reward you with several titles etc

[Iagainsti]

I wrote a term paper while camping leaping lizard for my boots.

Spent countless hours cramming while I camped for my Theif Knife.
i was out of university by the time I got my Bravura

Ffxi was amazing in its prime, but I have a life now

No than you #timesink

[Colorful]

The days of horizontal progression is gone. Unless you want a purely glamour item. Then i see no reason to complain. But anything that has any relevance to progression should be reset in the current model.

I wouldn't mind an item, be it a mount, weapon, set of armour, etc, that could be upgraded (adding cool visual effects and the like) that came with a long grind without RNG. One that never gets nerfed even 5 expansions in. Probably never going to happen though, and if it does it is going to be nerfed eventually.

[Wobble]

Unfortunately, it's catered to (please excuse me for using this word) "Casuals".

Then, you have the type of people who want everything in the game, and then suggest devs to nerf stuff to the ground.

It's not fun, but...they can't please everyone.

I happen to be a "casual" player and I have to say I'm bored with the game and lack of content. Only two dungeons for eso then when I finally get a piece of gear I'm happy until I think of how when I do finally gear up a job the gear is already obsolete.

Ilevel does not need to raise so quickly, they can program the content to whatever ilevel they want. The real problem is the "hardcore" player who feels if the ilevel isn't rising they aren't progressing when all it really takes to progress is new content and beating it, not ilevel.

[Jim_Berry]

I only had a long-term goal to be a hardcore raider. That goal was shot by my lack of strong DPS. I tried to gain morale by going PLD, but that, too, was shot as people don't seem to allow window for learning anymore.

That said, I now play casually and minimum. I JUST hit Lv57 on my NIN and barely doing any of Heavensward main scenario quests.