AST, Underpowered?, Potential changes, and you.

[FoxyAreku]

Actually no. Succor is 200 potency, aspected helios is 140 potency.

60 potency is pretty huge. a 140 potency shield isn't even one hit in most cases.

I have no problem with noct aspected benefic, I think it's fine. Even when I attempted savage A1 as an AST there wasn't a problem with it. It was actually pretty good for preys.

[SuzakuCMX]

Actually no. Succor is 200 potency, aspected helios is 140 potency.

Succor is 150. Aspected Helios is 147 in Nocturnal. They even have the exact same mana cost at 60 and the same range. The difference is 3 potency and Aspected Helios takes .5 sec longer to cast.

I have no problem with noct aspected benefic, I think it's fine. Even when I attempted savage A1 as an AST there wasn't a problem with it. It was actually pretty good for preys.

Benefic II is .82 Potency per Mana. Aspected Benefic is .74 potency per mana. The only situation to use Aspected Benefic is if your tank is going to get one-shot before Benefic II will finish casting or from full HP.

[CGMidlander]

Succor is 150. Aspected Helios is 147 in Nocturnal. They even have the exact same mana cost at 60 and the same range. The difference is 3 potency and Aspected Helios takes .5 sec longer to cast.



Benefic II is .82 Potency per Mana. Aspected Benefic is .74 potency per mana. The only situation to use Aspected Benefic is if your tank is going to get one-shot before Benefic II will finish casting or from full HP.

.5 seconds is very noticeable
I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be a standard 2.5 like most gcd skills

[SuzakuCMX]

.5 seconds is very noticeable
I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be a standard 2.5 like most gcd skills

Me neither. I assume it's because it's closerish to 2.5 seconds while in Diurnal Stance. They really didn't try very hard to make Nocturnal close to SCH in efficiency while Diurnal is much closer to WHM in efficiency in terms of base abilities.

[Tide]

Actually no. Succor is 200 potency, aspected helios is 140 potency.

60 potency is pretty huge. a 140 potency shield isn't even one hit in most cases.

I have no problem with noct aspected benefic, I think it's fine. Even when I attempted savage A1 as an AST there wasn't a problem with it. It was actually pretty good for preys.

Have to agree here. Even with the 5% noct. buff, 140 aspected helios x 1.05 = 147, MAYBE worth using for incoming raid damage but even with my gear succor heals for about 1k give or take to think spending all that MP on a shield that would probably shield for about 750ish? is pretty meh. better to spend that MP on a 304pot Helios and time it to heal the damage as it is dealt. would be curious if the lower mp costs are worth the lower potency. If someone was better with numbers perhaps finding the potency/mp spent for succor vs Asp. Helios.

EDIT: Took someones quote of succor being 200pot as fact w.o looking myself. They should both be pretty much on par with each other(Sch and ast aoe shielding)

[Rawrz]

Actually no. Succor is 200 potency, aspected helios is 140 potency.

60 potency is pretty huge. a 140 potency shield isn't even one hit in most cases.

I have no problem with noct aspected benefic, I think it's fine. Even when I attempted savage A1 as an AST there wasn't a problem with it. It was actually pretty good for preys.

Succor is 150. 300 with shield. o-o