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    Sidra's Avatar
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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Adrasteia View Post
    The math on Fey Wind puts it at about a 1.5% increase in party DPS. For something that you can fire off more-or-less automatically, that's a lot.
    No good math would have have Fey Wind do a 1.5% increase in party DPS. It's much less.
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    Kyle Drew
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidra View Post
    No good math would have have Fey Wind do a 1.5% increase in party DPS. It's much less.
    Considering people with more knowledge and experience compared to your few months experience have crunched the numbers on numerous posts and sites about this, you might want to back up your post with actual data.

    To the OP. Which fairy you use is situational. If you are not up to par or just not that great of healer, then eos will be your go to fairy. If you are a competent healer then Selene will be the fairy to use. Any kind of raid wide increase to damage output like Selene's remade buff does is less healing you will have to do overall. If something dies faster, less healing you should need to do over a course of a fight.

    I will say this, eos is a crutch for bad healers a lot of the time. Whether it is gear related or skill related is not the problem as both are fixable. Having s potency increase to compensate for your short comings is a definition of a crutch.
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    Last edited by Zaresin; 08-18-2015 at 05:52 AM.

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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresin View Post
    Considering people with more knowledge and experience compared to your few months experience have crunched the numbers on numerous posts and sites about this, you might want to back up your post with actual data.

    To the OP. Which fairy you use is situational. If you are not up to par or just not that great of healer, then eos will be your go to fairy. If you are a competent healer then Selene will be the fairy to use. Any kind of raid wide increase to damage output like Selene's remade buff does is less healing you will have to do overall. If something dies faster, less healing you should need to do over a course of a fight.

    I will say this, eos is a crutch for bad healers a lot of the time. Whether it is gear related or skill related is not the problem as both are fixable. Having s potency increase to compensate for your short comings is a definition of a crutch.
    I wanna see you test this. Go out to a dummy and cast fey wind. Broil it as many times as you can. ~11 times right?
    Now Cast adlo on yourself for a timer, and do the same thing. Broil it as many times as you can. ~11 times again right?

    It takes almost 3 rotations of Fey wind (1 minute and 20 seconds of buff time or about 2 minutes and 20 seconds total) to get that extra GCD. I wanna see this miracle math and data you're talking about. Selene helps dps/healers with poor speed stats to hit their rotations and push their buffs about a tenth of a second easier(7/10 really if you're starting at at least 2.43.)

    3% x 8≠ 24%. Everyone's GCDs are seperate. They do not add up instantly to make the group hit faster and thus hit harder. It takes everyone those 33 GCDs to reach a benifit of a real dps increase of "1.5%."
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    Sidra Swiftwind
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresin View Post
    Considering people with more knowledge and experience compared to your few months experience have crunched the numbers on numerous posts and sites about this, you might want to back up your post with actual data.
    Excuse me? The 3% number is derived from quite simply stating 50% up time of a 3% ability. Is that what you call number crunching? However, the buff doesn't impact damage, it effects GCD and autoattack speed. However, there is a ton of damage in this game that is not tied to autoattcks or GCDs. Dots, and off GCD, primarily. We're talking a lot of damage that Fey Wind simply doesn't impact at all which detracts from the 1.5%. So please, point me to this amazing math that shows Fey Wind has a 1.5% overall party dps increase.

    I am surprised I had to explain that is to you as it's quite simple - someone of obviously intelligent as you shouldn't have needed any explanation.
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    Last edited by Sidra; 08-18-2015 at 06:15 AM.

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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresin View Post
    Which fairy you use is situational.
    Well...this part was true.
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    Vermilion Rose
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresin View Post
    Considering people with more knowledge and experience compared to your few months experience have crunched the numbers on numerous posts and sites about this, you might want to back up your post with actual data.

    To the OP. Which fairy you use is situational. If you are not up to par or just not that great of healer, then eos will be your go to fairy. If you are a competent healer then Selene will be the fairy to use. Any kind of raid wide increase to damage output like Selene's remade buff does is less healing you will have to do overall. If something dies faster, less healing you should need to do over a course of a fight.

    I will say this, eos is a crutch for bad healers a lot of the time. Whether it is gear related or skill related is not the problem as both are fixable. Having s potency increase to compensate for your short comings is a definition of a crutch.
    There's so much wrong in this post my eyes are bleeding right now...

    Find me a group that has downed A3S that did not use EOS on P3 and P4.

    I dare you, I double dare you.
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    Aeon Rakshasa
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    I use Eos because I'm lazy...and work better with her.
    Selene I never used before HW but now I do switch her out every once in a while for Fey Wind.
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    Una Gloriana
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Fey Wind is hardly noticeable. Fey Caress me gusta a lot, though. It's actually useful because a SCH doesn't have an aoe leeches. Everything Eos does I can do without. :/
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    Pluie Pluvieux
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 70
    i use selene when i don't need to heal too much aka dps-ing. When swiftcast is up and my group needs extra healing i'll switch to Eos.
    then back again to selene.
    Not that i'm an expert in swapping fairies *im still learning* , but i think it's a good idea to make use both of the fairies as different skill on their hotbar didn't share the same cooldown ( so u can use fey wind , swap to eos then use fey illum & whispering down , if u like )
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    Akihiko Hoshie
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Selene is far more useful now because of her massive dispell

    I use her for 4-man content, she's more than enough as back-up heal.
    I abuse Eos in 8-man content, because she's a wonderful healing support.
    => A1S using her fey covenant on a tank before plasma can save his life
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