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    Muahbec's Avatar
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    About SCH artifact

    So i was about to buy my new SCH eso wep and.....what's going on?
    92 Spell speed? Why would i need that? Why there's a freaking amount of 92 crit on a WHM wep o_e ?
    And not just that, even the chest piece.
    Determination? When both WHM and AST have 82/60 Crit ???
    Even the Gordian wep, not a single crit point.

    Seriously who came up with these stats?

    SE gives us shields that requires crit to fully shine.....and then.... gives us 0 crit on our new artifacts....wut?
    Time to get the hive codex...... ¬¬

    EDIT:
    In my opinion
    Determination: WHM
    Crit: SCH
    AST:....no idea....Spell speed? Determination too? Maybe?
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    Last edited by Muahbec; 08-16-2015 at 09:31 AM.

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    Yeah...I am with you on this one...it really seems like things are not thought through sometimes but they would have to be for a reason. Have not looked at in a while but is the CRIT for scholar on "other" gear pieces maybe. Scholar is my 2nd job so I am more focused on Bard gear right now.
    I know that the Bard ESO weapon is not ideal either so eh....whatever I guess...bought it anyway because no way I am beating A4S any time soon, have not even attempted A1S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    Have not looked at in a while but is the CRIT for scholar on "other" gear pieces maybe.
    Not on eso at least.
    The only pieces with Crit are:
    Boots and Hat (37 each)= 74 total + eso acc (28,39) = 141
    While WHM
    Robe (86), Boots(37), Weapon(92)= 215 total + eso acc (28,39) = 282
    And AST
    Robe (60), Boots (53) = 113 + eso acc (28,39) = 180
    We have...
    WHM with almost 300 crit
    AST with almost 200
    and SCH( the one who needs the most) with almost 150.......1.5.0!!!!!!
    WHAT? There must be something wrong here o_e
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    Last edited by Muahbec; 08-16-2015 at 09:42 AM.

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    I have even been noticing in my Law set on Scholar my CRIT is terrible...It is almost like they don't want us crit'ing shileds as much...pretty lame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikedizzy View Post
    I have even been noticing in my Law set on Scholar my CRIT is terrible...It is almost like they don't want us crit'ing shileds as much...pretty lame.
    Truly lame.
    I don't know what's going on, but SCH needs crit. Not attack speed .____.
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    Darkmoon Vael
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    They never have put the most optimal stats on weapons. Nothing really has changed here.

    Also in BiS for SCH this patch you can get 800 crit. BiS always takes into account a mixture of raid gear and tomestone gear. 800 is a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    92 Spell speed? Why would i need that?
    So you can Broil your Lalafell chicken faster? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    They never have put the most optimal stats on weapons. Nothing really has changed here.
    This, pretty much. Welcome to Square Enix itemization, where Dragoons had nothing but Skill Speed in 2.2 and SMNs had nothing but Spell Speed in 2.4. On the flip side, crit rained for SCHs in 2.0 and 2.2. Sometimes the itemization dartboard favors you, and sometimes it doesn't.

    It's also worth noting that with the various adjustments to stats and scaling post-50 that the secondary stats are all much closer in value than they used to be, if initial testing and models from folks like Dervy are any indication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkmoonVael View Post
    They never have put the most optimal stats on weapons. Nothing really has changed here.

    Also in BiS for SCH this patch you can get 800 crit. BiS always takes into account a mixture of raid gear and tomestone gear. 800 is a lot.
    Exactly, in the end, imagine with that 800 tacked on if your weapon and body had the same stats as the WHM set, you're easily looking at 900+ which would be all kinds of broken. The gordian legs alone have 94 crit.

    AST IMO seems to need Crit and peity. I do not think DET has a big effect like it did pre-HW, so it may not be as important. But i would need confirmation.
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    Guess they want to limit the occurance of SCH's getting a 4k crit adlo on a war, followed by a deployment tactics, thus granting an 8k raid-wide shield lol.
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