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    Quote Originally Posted by Yorumi View Post
    I think the problem is the degree to which ARR and really HW takes the scripting and lazy design. I don't expect pure rng but it's taken to such a ridiculous extreme you're pretty much a robot in these fights. Every class is basically a fixed rotation, every boss is a scripted dps check. We're not thinking during a fight we're writing a bot script.
    Same can be applied to almost any other PvE (and even PvP...if you're good enough :P) scenario. You're essentially repeating the great PvE vs. PvP debate.

    For a large amount of people, doing their rotation without error (if they even know how to do that to begin with), whilst performing whichever mechanic the boss is throwing at you can be a challenge. Some bosses are far more complex to manage than others in this respect. Yes, it comes at you the same way every-time (well not every-time, there is some variability), but you certainly get better. After an odd 50-70 attempts at that boss I was still learning news way to optimize and eke out the tiniest bit more DPS by the end. If it were so simple I would see more people perform better, even after the umpteenth wipe. Don't forget 7 other people can't make a mistake either!

    It's definitely a different skill-set to PvP though, which you seem the value those traits more (reactions, clutch plays, adaption, etc.).

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Loot at the second boss from Copperbell normal. DPS doesn't matter but you still need someone to keep aggro on it.
    Going on record to say that is my actual least favorite fight in the game. I'd rather eat rusty nails than do that boring piece of donkey's ass.

    But the point is, presume that's a raid. You don't need to DPS boss beyond aggro. So it would automatically favour a PLD because they can do something other than DPS (a DRK and WAR literally can not doing anything but use their attack skills). Which is the inverse of the current problem. This was my point.
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    Last edited by RapBreon; 08-19-2015 at 12:30 AM.