Quote Originally Posted by Stormrider View Post
I am not sure if you run with most of the same people. But you seem to have a little bit of a dc between the type of general population in roulette. While I will not go so far as to say, wretched hive of scum and villainy. It can be pretty close. So let say Neverreap and Fractal should take between 25-30 mins. Most 51-60 also in the 25-30 range. The amount of hate, ridicule and disgust I have seen leveled at people for finishing in 31 mins. There are enough bad apples on a regular basis penalties need to be in place and people need to except the actions they take.

Your reasons are very valid, but we can not trust enough of the population to act in a decent manor. S E also says we don't allow tells in dungeon due to what we may believe lead to griefing. If that is the true reason I am not sure but it is what they put out. So players can't be trusted to behave so we have penalties.
I don't think I have a disconnect at all. I've been an avid player of this game since phase 3 beta and I've seen a ton of jerk players, but why anyone would want to encourage them to continue a duty with everyone else is beyond me. If they're going to be rude because a run takes an extra minute then why not votekick them or let them leave so you can get someone who might be a bit more chill about the run time? If it's that hard to find a pleasant replacement then we should all find a different game anyway.

I think a lot of the problems this community has come from not embracing the team nature of this game. Instead both sides of issues demonize each other. For instance, on this votekick issue there is one side that is like "There are jerk players and they will abandon the group in a duty and leave the rest of us in a bind, maybe because we don't know the fight or are a bit slow to clear" and the other side is like "I've run this duty 135353538398 times and want it to go as quickly as possible so I can collect my reward and move on to more fun things."

See neither side is wrong; the only thing wrong is that each side fails to acknowledge that each position is a perfectly legitimate position to hold.