"Please Kick Me..." - Just Take Your Penalty

[PuppytimusLeoroccanz]

*Ques for Duty Roulette leveling as a tank:

Enters into Aurum Vale/Dzemael Darkhold or any dungeon etc

Do I want to full clear?
No > Short run / minimal clear
Yes > Ask party
Party says Yes > Do full clear
Party says No > Do minimal clear

Both dps doesn't let the tank pull aggro and just keeps unloading?
Explain and tell both dps to let the tank generate enmity first
DPS agree > continue dungeon
DPS ignore > try to keep up, give it my 200% if needed and continue

If wiped and DPS still ignore and do their own thing > Vote abandon
Vote abandon pass > Out of dungeon
Vote abandon fail > and if DPS still want to act the same, tell the party {I'm Sorry} {I'm not up for it}
leave the dungeon

At least that is how I'd do it, not everyone is the same. I don't think my method is to be even considered good but that is how I have been doing it and will continue to do so.

[Cakekizy]

How about we just implement a system where your entry regardless of clear counts for your roulette that way it forces people to stay for the full run, or get no credit.

Would they lose their roulette for day if group runs out timer without winning?

[Rhaja]

Honestly, when it comes down between them willingly sitting there stubbornly, or just getting someone else, I'll kick them. Time is getting rather thin for this game, and i'd rather not waste it on someone who will force us into a stand still.

[Evangela]

It's funny how people are trying so hard to find a way to force the others to play the game with them.

they have freedom and human rights too, you know?

"you have to play the game with me or you'll be punished!!" ok, calm down, guys.

[RygaenYuui]

So in XI, most bad players would develop reputations of ill party manners because you would always see that player or hear about those players on your particular server (that and they would always have trouble finding help). The same notoriety is difficult to pinpoint in XIV because we play with multiple server groups.

I don't think it's a bad thing for reputation to carry with the players decisions. There's definitely a way to treat people IRL and over the net, regardless of your anonymity. But of course that's never going to happen in this game; people too afraid that singling threatening players out is bad for the community at large. Any duty finder instance removes any association with the character's FC as well (For silly reasons....because you can always take that person's name, run a search, and find ALL of their information on lodestone anyway....)

But it would be nice to have something as far as a reputation system is concerned....Like an icon that's place above a person's name or something when they leave or are kicked a party for harassment or receive penalty after so many attempts... They give a huge and harsh penalty for people who don't accept the duties that they sign up for, then what is the difference for people who don't complete their duties and leave midway?

[Magistrella]

But it would be nice to have something as far as a reputation system is concerned....Like an icon that's place above a person's name or something when they leave or are kicked a party for harassment or receive penalty after so many attempts... They give a huge and harsh penalty for people who don't accept the duties that they sign up for, then what is the difference for people who don't complete their duties and leave midway?

cool, ill make 7 alt chars then to downvote a person 8 times total /sarcasm

and to answer your question: 30 minutes DF not working + waittime for next entry (yes, not only tanks/heals do that)

[Fenral]

When you ask for a vote dismiss, you're negatively impacting the rest of the party. If you understand that and do it anyway, possibly even retaliating if they don't, you are the one holding up the party. The party is not at fault.

Sad that so many of these responses amount to "just let them abuse the system." Being against it isn't "rage," it's a perfectly understandable form of irritation. All OP is asking for, that I can see, is for people to change their attitude about using vote dismiss to abuse the system, which really isn't too much to ask.

If anything, I think the new stock response should just be "sorry, mine's on cooldown." They have no way of verifying it either way, and if they insist on being a problem because of it, well, that's grounds for a report.

[Yamimarik]

I'm not really for either side, only because there is always another side to each story. But not too long ago I had to deal with this issue, to the point the individual wanting kicked MPK'd us, and then refused to heal us or even move. Our healer had said something in party chat about "Going fast so we could beat the reset..." it was 10pm EST and a Thursday night.... what reset?! Daily reset was quite a few hours away, and weekly reset? Quite a few more days away as well @.@

Well it was Keeper of the Lake, and you can only go so far before you physically are blocked by bridges up till you beat certain mobs till you can continue. But pulling all before you can actually move on further wasn't enough, because after the first bridge falls and you pull that really big group, the healer stops healing us, runs away, we die, then he pulls a group and kills us again w/o healing, then asks to be kicked. Well at first I completely out right refuse and call a GM. Finally after 10mins have passed and I'm waiting for a response, the DPS get fed up waiting and vote dismiss him w/o me.

The GM finally contacts me and the first thing he asks me is if I used the tools at my disposal to get rid of said individual with the "Vote Dismiss" option. You very well may need to utilize it whether you personally want to or not, before a GM may be able to take action against said individual. It is there for a reason and people holding up the run by wanting a vote kick is a form of Harassment which is clearly an option under the Vote Dismiss options.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

So you're asking us to treat you like a dog?

[myahele]

So you're asking us to treat you like a dog?

Might as well. People treat their dogs better than players in this game