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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
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    Well in a way they could be a probation status of sorts. If your kicked once, maybe it was the team, perhaps they just don't take kindly to new people. Kicked a 2nd time from another group within 30minutes, your obviously doing something wrong. Thus giving them the penalty. Least I can't see getting put into two trolling parties wanting to kick you just for the lols. It would also punish the person should they que up again and get the same dungeon anyway, either way they are stuck. Leave and penalty, kicked and penalty or just do it.
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFox View Post
    Well in a way they could be a probation status of sorts. If your kicked once, maybe it was the team, perhaps they just don't take kindly to new people. Kicked a 2nd time from another group within 30minutes, your obviously doing something wrong. Thus giving them the penalty. Least I can't see getting put into two trolling parties wanting to kick you just for the lols. It would also punish the person should they que up again and get the same dungeon anyway, either way they are stuck. Leave and penalty, kicked and penalty or just do it.
    Seems a good way to implement it.
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    is it just me or does the OP seem as stubborn as the ppl requesting to be kicked. i can see where the issue lies when 2 bull headed ppl clash
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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    is it just me or does the OP seem as stubborn as the ppl requesting to be kicked. i can see where the issue lies when 2 bull headed ppl clash
    How am I being stubborn?
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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    How am I being stubborn?
    cuz for you theres no ifs. ands or buts about it. you want penalties handed out like candy. personally id probably ask to be kicked if i ran into ur attitude on a run. thankfully i dont run dungeons often
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    cuz for you theres no ifs. ands or buts about it. you want penalties handed out like candy. personally id probably ask to be kicked if i ran into ur attitude on a run. thankfully i dont run dungeons often
    I don't have an attitude going into a run. I'm perfectly happy to let players watch cut scenes and stay for full trash clears. However, I don't agree with using vote kick because someone "asks" to be removed if they don't like a dungeon.

    I'm just incredibly tired of seeing people try to cheese the penalty timer by d/c'ing to force a kick or asking to be kicked and then cherry pick a different group. It's inconsiderate to the entire current party and there is no way in saying they won't do that to a future party as well.
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    Last edited by Syrehn; 08-16-2015 at 02:10 PM.

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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    I don't have an attitude going into a run. I'm perfectly happy to let players watch cut scenes and stay for full trash clears. However, I don't agree with using vote kick because someone "asks" to be removed if they don't like dungeon.

    I'm just incredibly tired of seeing people try to cheese the penalty timer by d/c'ing to force a kick or asking to be kicked and then cherry pick a different group. It's inconsiderate to the entire current party and there is no way in saying they won't do that to a future party as well.
    maybe said individual and yourself or another member of the party arent getting along. maybe they are trying to be mature about it and askin to be removed from a tense situation. why not just kick said individual so everyone can go back to pretending to be happy. move forward, carry on with ur lives instead of dragging a situation out making it inevitably WORSE ON EVERYONE.
    sometimes u just got to suck up ur pride and look forward or continue being stubborn with your boots stuck in the mud
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    However, I don't agree with using vote kick because someone "asks" to be removed if they don't like a dungeon.
    For reference, this is the stubborn part.

    You aren't accomplishing anything at this point in the hypothetical imo. I've seen all this stuff happen, and there's no revelatory experience that emerges from it. No one decides they were being a dick and to be cooperative. The individual gets stuck in the dungeon for a while. The rest of the group has to wait even longer than usual for a replacement. At a practical level that's all that happens. Just because someone's wrong doesn't make the other party right.

    Suggesting a penalty to kick is something. But just refusing to kick someone at this point serves no purpose except to create a heightened sense of righteous indignation. It's just stubborn.
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    M'irau Rhya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    is it just me or does the OP seem as stubborn as the ppl requesting to be kicked. i can see where the issue lies when 2 bull headed ppl clash
    Except the OP is not breaking any rules/abusing game mechanics.

    I do the same myself, you are here with us and you will stay or eat the penalty, why should we have to wait for another person just so you can get any easy pass?
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    Miles Saintborough
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    I have still yet to see anyone try to explain why someone needs to avoid a penalty that badly via asking to be kicked. To me that sounds like promoting bad behavior and then asking for a kick so that you don't suffer any consequences for your own actions.
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