"Please Kick Me..." - Just Take Your Penalty

[RiceisNice]

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The thing is, an MMO is only as fun as the people you play with. The penalties by themselves don't impact it as muc has the people who use it. That is, the ones that want to burden their party with a get-out-free-kick, the ones that used to fish for in-progress, the ones that wrongfully kick people, etc etc.

[LunaHoshino]

For me, it depends entirely on the situation. Someone asks for a kick almost as soon as they load into the dungeon/trial? No way, buddy. If you want to leave, you can take the penalty.

But if we're partway through the dungeon/trial and someone asks for a kick because something came up? Sure, I'll oblige them. It doesn't hurt me in any way, and sometimes life happens. If they've been being a team player up until that point I see no reason to punish them just because they have to leave for whatever reason.

[RiceisNice]

For me, it depends entirely on the situation. Someone asks for a kick almost as soon as they load into the dungeon/trial? No way, buddy. If you want to leave, you can take the penalty.

But if we're partway through the dungeon/trial and someone asks for a kick because something came up? Sure, I'll oblige them. It doesn't hurt me in any way, and sometimes life happens. If they've been being a team player up until that point I see no reason to punish them just because they have to leave for whatever reason.

On the other hand, if it's something like "life happens", then surely the 30 minute penalty for straight up leaving won't hurt them anyway? If its like 3-5 minutes, then the party can still make due without an acutal tank, healer or dps for the duration up until the boss

[Mykll]

On the other hand, if it's something like "life happens", then surely the 30 minute penalty for straight up leaving won't hurt them anyway? If its like 3-5 minutes, then the party can still make due without an acutal tank, healer or dps for the duration up until the boss

Yep, exactly. Real life bothering you, take the 30 minute penalty, take care of whatever you need to without worrying about the game. Get things settled down, come back to game.

Only need a few minutes? Bathroom, pizza at door, whatever, quick AFK. If they have been really nice and need even 10 minutes, in an otherwise good group, and there is trash ahead the rest can handle? Go AFK, we will wait at the next boss.

[LunaHoshino]

On the other hand, if it's something like "life happens", then surely the 30 minute penalty for straight up leaving won't hurt them anyway? If its like 3-5 minutes, then the party can still make due without an acutal tank, healer or dps for the duration up until the boss

But the end result for the party is still the same whether the person leaves or gets kicked: they're going to have to wait for a replacement. I don't see the point in essentially saying "No, screw you" when someone asks politely for something. It's one thing if they're rude about it, but if they're polite, why not just do it?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Again, why do you need to avoid a 30 minute time out? Why do I or other party members need to waste a 4 hour cool down votekick? You're not always going to get what you want just because you asked nicely.

[LunaHoshino]

Again, why do you need to avoid a 30 minute time out? Why do I or other party members need to waste a 4 hour cool down votekick? You're not always going to get what you want just because you asked nicely.

People keep saying that... just how often do other people use votekick? I think I've used it twice total in the past month, once on someone who DCed in the middle of a dungeon and once on a tank in Titan EX who didn't have provoke.

What kind of people are the posters here running with where you need to use votekick all the time?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Answer my question and I may answer yours. I have yet to see anyone give a good reason to needing to be kicked to do.....something else in game?

[LunaHoshino]

Answer my question and I may answer yours. I have yet to see anyone give a good reason to needing to be kicked to do.....something else in game?

I've been in runs with someone who forgot to repair beforehand and had gear break in the middle of the run. They asked us to kick them, we did, they repaired and then rejoined by queuing in progress. They'd been a good player up until that point so we were happy to help them out that way.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

There is no victim, and no offender. Simply put, for whatever reason, people don't want you on their group, and would rather bow out gracefully rather than raise a big stink over it.