"Please Kick Me..." - Just Take Your Penalty

[Mykll]

you totally missed the point there - he couldnt leave and take the 30 min because he was already late (due to a dungeon taking 60 min instead of 20-30) and did not want to make his team (7 other people he knows) wait another 30 minutes because 3 other people were too stupid to kill a easy boss after multiple tries.

Maybe he learned his lesson to not queue up for something so close to another raid.

Would they lose their roulette for day if group runs out timer without winning?

In my suggestion, where you forever get the same dungeon for Roulette until you clear, you just try again the same day and probably get another group. Get your daily bonus done.

[myahele]

Ok, but that still doesn't answer my other question of when everyone already used their votes beforehand.

They'd then proceed to fake dc thinking that atleast someone actually can/will initiate vote kick

[Cakekizy]

you totally missed the point there - he couldnt leave and take the 30 min because he was already late (due to a dungeon taking 60 min instead of 20-30) and did not want to make his team (7 other people he knows) wait another 30 minutes because 3 other people were too stupid to kill a easy boss after multiple tries.
I actually draw my hat before that person, because of the speed they most likely were going i'd probably been gone after the first 5 min and just ate the penalty.

and to your question - idk and idc, if someone asks he gets the boot - less drama comes from that then refusing

That's his own fault, you shouldn't queue if you don't have time to take the full timer for the dungeon.

[Assirra]

They'd then proceed to fake dc thinking that atleast someone actually can/will initiate vote kick

Might as well. People treat their dogs better than players in this game

Yea you are so much better then the rest...

[Miste]

I agree there is times where the system is abused to get booted to avoid timers. However, I do know of times where it is nessisary for a said player who is running to raid and the said group is having problems.

To elabirate, this happened just a week ago to a raid mate. He ran his expert and got 3 new people in the run. They were in there for over an hour wiping to the final boss. A run that should of taken him only 30 minutes took twice as long than it should of. He tried to vote abandon but they wouldn't say yes. He also tried to ask them boot him. Again no. He couldn't just leave or we wouldn't of been able to raid. We would of needed to get someone else.

What is one to do in one of those groups? You are stuck with them. Our raid mate stuck it out and we got an hour worth of raid in but it sucks if you need to leave, but can't because the other three are practically holding you hostage.

See this situation is one of those ones that makes me think all this stuff about "Oh, just leave and eat the penalty cause its rude to ask for a kick" is kind of something that could be flipped to the other viewpoint...

This guy had a raid coming up. Expert usually takes 20-30 minutes instead it ended up taking over and hour? The run wasn't going well...they wiped to the final boss not once or twice but reported multiple times. Obviously this guy TRIED to make it work. In the end he just ran out of time and had people waiting for him. This kind of mistake can happen to anyone. He tries to vote abandon to see if the others agree. They don't, okay, that's fine. Then he asked, I am assuming politely, to be kicked from party due to his circumstances.

Yet no one was nice enough to just do it as a favor, a sign of compassion, goodwill, or just plain sympathy? That blows my mind.

It's like most people agree that it's rude to ask for a kick because you should just be accepting and open to help your fellow players. Yet reverse it and people are not willing to be accepting, open, sympathize with, and help a fellow player out by leaving them with no penalty.

I mean I guess I just don't understand. If the person is argumentative and a jerk okay, but if someone who was just a normal obviously kind player that wanted to leave with no penalty for a good reason like raid time or having to go help a friend on some duty...it's like, no one shows any compassion. But many people expect compassion when they are failing multiple times on a boss etc.

Not saying everyone should get vote kicks or whatever...just to me it seems some people are a bit too rigid about it.

As for the everyone has their vote kick on cool down thing....I think the % chance of that happening is very very very low. If it somehow does well then something else would have to be done. Like vote abandon or the person who wants to leave just leaves and eat penalty since it was their own mistake to begin with.

[myahele]

Yea you are so much better then the rest...

Pot calling the kettle black? Sorry if I'm sick of people fake DCing to get out of a dungeon they don't like. Take the penalty, I know I do. 30m is nothing.

[Iromi]

I think if someone wants to leave, they should just leave. I will never kick someone when they ask...if they need to go, they can tolerate being out of the DF for 30 minutes.

Whenever I have to go, I just drop and take the penalty after apologizing to my group.

[RiceisNice]

...

If it was 30~ minutes before raid, I personally wouldn't even queue up for anything anyway because its a liability to hold up your raid members, all things considered. Especially if you get 3 new people for an expert dungeon that it should've been a red lgiht for the run taking longer than usual. Could've bailed immediately that you have other matters to attend to and probably won't have time guiding three new people and still make raid time if it was 30 minutes to raid (and if it was less, then again, I'd have to question why you're even doing duty finder roulette that close to raid time).

Unless your raid was for Alexander savage, then all of that is out of the window because savage doesn't use duty finder...

[Magistrella]

That's his own fault, you shouldn't queue if you don't have time to take the full timer for the dungeon.

Then im supposed to not play most of the time? Because i am NOT sitting 90 minutes straight in front of the game.

I don't know about you, but i have something called a life - when i plan a dungeon i plan 45 minutes. Because even with bad players that's how long it should take. And i will not be told by some self righteous <insertwordofchoicehere> that can sit in front of the game the whole day to "Make space 1 1/2 hours of my time" for something that can be done in 20-25 minutes

Sorry, just shows how much off a jerk attitude comes out no matter on what side of the table you stand

[MilesSaintboroguh]

If you can't commit some time to this game, then maybe you shouldn't be signing up for duties that you know that could pop at any minute. We already went through this song and dance when withdraw penalties were introduced and every crafter acted like crafting while in queue was punishing them. If you're waiting that long for a duty to pop, then perhaps you need to grab a few friends to help you out.