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    Your sample size is ridiculously low, and I'm not just saying that because you're making a strange claim. There is a +/- 5% variance in min to max damage, roughly. You cannot take a very small sample size, then take the average damage of that sample size, then look at the +%. That's almost as skewed as if I'd take one attack from each type and compare them.

    Here's how you test. You look at damage ranges, which can be ascertained when you eventually get a min/max after 100s of attacks (it will be that +/- 5% variance, an easy way to know you've found it is when you have a min damage that's almost exactly 10% lower than your highest hit). You will then get the median damage of your sample type. Disregard crits, they are equal for all tests since it's a static value that has no impact on a test except to round strangely with varying CHR values. Compare that median damage to other median damages, based on facts unrelated to the variance you'll get in a short sample size.

    You'll get the very 10% I'm talking about. Also, yes Storm's Eye/Dragon Kick/Disembowel are also roughly 10%. They do not translate to a pure 10% DPS increase because of DoTs, as you said, but the skills they do impact, it is indeed a roughly 10% straight increase. I can get you damage medians if you don't believe me. Fortunately for DoM, all their damage type sans auto attacks are magical so for them it will be a 10% increase while it's active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
    Your sample size is ridiculously low, and I'm not just saying that because you're making a strange claim. There is a +/- 5% variance in min to max damage, roughly. You cannot take a very small sample size, then take the average damage of that sample size, then look at the +%. That's almost as skewed as if I'd take one attack from each type and compare them.

    Here's how you test. You look at damage ranges, which can be ascertained when you eventually get a min/max after 100s of attacks (it will be that +/- 5% variance, an easy way to know you've found it is when you have a min damage that's almost exactly 10% lower than your highest hit). You will then get the median damage of your sample type. Disregard crits, they are equal for all tests since it's a static value that has no impact on a test except to round strangely with varying CHR values. Compare that median damage to other median damages, based on facts unrelated to the variance you'll get in a short sample size.

    You'll get the very 10% I'm talking about. Also, yes Storm's Eye/Dragon Kick/Disembowel are also roughly 10%. They do not translate to a pure 10% DPS increase because of DoTs, as you said, but the skills they do impact, it is indeed a roughly 10% straight increase. I can get you damage medians if you don't believe me. Fortunately for DoM, all their damage type sans auto attacks are magical so for them it will be a 10% increase while it's active.
    Well, I did it right now,

    SMN i190:
    No Foe:
    Ruin I range 553-612

    With Foe:
    Ruin I range 610-673.

    10%, You are right, Foe brings +10% magic damage. Im gonna test Piercing Debuff with my MCH again then...
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