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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    i think YOU dont understand. try doing ten>weaponskill>chi and youll get a rabbit
    Mudras are Off GCD.

    They just can't be weaved one by one between abilities because they have the caveat of auto-failing if anything comes between them.

    Off GCD means it can be used between Weaponskills and Spells. These are the actions classified as 'Abilities', which mudras are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErzaScarlet77 View Post
    i think YOU dont understand. try doing ten>weaponskill>chi and youll get a rabbit
    Cool. thats not what off GCD means though
    The only reason SMN is better on a2 is because of Vulnerability stacks and Bane interacting - really they're on the same level
    Well no. smn has more aoe damage than blm in literally any situation. Summoners right now would still have more aoe dps than unnerfed blm. So its funny you think blm's nerf was deserved but summoner is completely fine.
    fire II x3 + flare followed by 6 seconds of doing fuckall damage cannot even compare with garuda, bane, painflare and deathflare all of which are instan and off GCD
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    Last edited by hallena; 08-20-2015 at 03:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Yeah, black mages made out like kings, alright.
    Maybe you should come to Gilgamesh and meet Haru. Blm is in a very very very good spot. Stop qqing and start pew pewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Maybe you should come to Gilgamesh and meet Haru. Blm is in a very very very good spot. Stop qqing and start pew pewing
    Never said they weren't, just that the nerf to their AoE was a strange occurrence when it basically just got padded into Summoner.
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    Damon Savinski
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    Add .5% to emnity multiplier on shield oath or whatever to make pld relevant to raids again.
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cept on 2 mob fights like A1S.
    Or fights that require repeated movement and target losses, like A3S.
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    Mala Liath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    Cept on 2 mob fights like A1S.
    Or fights that require repeated movement and target losses, like A3S.
    On 2 mob fights, they should come out equal. BLMs superior ST and Thunderclouds multidotting will make up for SMNs multidotting. I don't know what you mean with A3S, I have never lost Enochian there after my first clear and I haven't seen a higher SMN parse than the top BLM parses there either.
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    Atiqa Craiger
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneWingedSora View Post
    On 2 mob fights, they should come out equal. BLMs superior ST and Thunderclouds multidotting will make up for SMNs multidotting. I don't know what you mean with A3S, I have never lost Enochian there after my first clear and I haven't seen a higher SMN parse than the top BLM parses there either.
    I haven't played BLM yet in 3.0, but I'm guessing it all comes down to skills on this subject...

    From what I've seen, BLM seems to be in a very good spot, just like you say, and it looks like it's more a case of BLM being a challenge to play correctly. At least compared to 2.X.

    So to players out there, SE don't balance according to what an average player can do, they look at the maximum performances. They ofc don't want one job to be 10 times harder or something, but there are harder and easier jobs in this game, and that has always been the case.
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    -_- I also want to point out the only change I suggested for Black mage is Thundercloud giving Thunder Raiton's animation.

    Literally.

    I just want a lightning bolt.

    I actually suggested Summoner Aetherflow refreshing Aethertrail duration. I ain't up in arms saying 'black mage needs buff.' It's really hard to be angry at a flare / ether nerf when you blast the crap out of something's face for 10k back to back.

    Just clarifying. Arguing for the sake of arguing and all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    -_- I also want to point out the only change I suggested for Black mage is Thundercloud giving Thunder Raiton's animation.
    Yeah the explosion it doesnt doesnt feel satisfying. Maybe change that animation for Crits only? Make it really satisfying and feel powerful
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