how is this thread still here

how is this thread still here
Everytime I sign into FF XIV (Subscribed again after loosing my "ability" to post) it's always Clam Chowder. I don't have a Fisher. So there's one thing I cannot craft unless I level Fisher.
Point being, I'm tired of being forced to level my crafters through gathering. It's wrong. When I have done all my gathering and done my crafting class, What then? Do it all again for the gathering roles themselves. Thats one hell of a lot of work over a total of 11 classes.
I don't want to buy everything of the Marketboard. I want to be self sufficiant. However it's impossible to be, without me spending months upon months of leveling roles I don't want.


No, that's not a lot of work. It's not work at all, in fact: it's a game.
Yes, leveling is a game you play, not work you do. How can it be work when you are paying to do it, instead of being paid?
Attitude is everything. The point of playing games is to have fun. So if you are logging into FFXIV to do work, you're doing it wrong and naturally won't enjoy it.
Perhaps you should try logging and and doing whatever you want at the time, instead of what you think you need to do. It can be watching the sun rise in Limsa, for example, I enjoy that occasionally. And when I do, I win.


Actually, it took me only about 10 days to level all DoH from 50 to 60. Yes, I did buy some items from the MB to do Fisher leves, but it really didn't take that long...Everytime I sign into FF XIV (Subscribed again after loosing my "ability" to post) it's always Clam Chowder. I don't have a Fisher. So there's one thing I cannot craft unless I level Fisher.
Point being, I'm tired of being forced to level my crafters through gathering. It's wrong. When I have done all my gathering and done my crafting class, What then? Do it all again for the gathering roles themselves. Thats one hell of a lot of work over a total of 11 classes.
I don't want to buy everything of the Marketboard. I want to be self sufficiant. However it's impossible to be, without me spending months upon months of leveling roles I don't want.
Miner and Botanist leves are not something you can buy from MB anyway.
If you use the Commercial Survival Manual properly, that 20 min can produce a huge amount of exp, and will cover 2 Miner and 2 Botanist leves at the same time in the same area. This can dramatically speed up leveling of MIN and BTN between level 57 to 60. You have 3 from each of the DoL, so you can use it 9 times for this "quadruple leves" trick. Together with the speed bonus from leves, it will send you straight to the heavens of 60 very quickly.
If you want to be self-sufficient, then you just have to put in the effort to level... This is no difference from saying "I wanna play end-game SMN, but I'm sick of leveling my Arcanist", or saying "I wanna boost my Monk's DPS, but I am sick of leveling Lancer for Blood4Blood!". If you want the result, then you gotta spend the time to do it. The "FUN" comes when the task is completed and you enjoy the results. In crafting, you actually have the choice to buy things instead of gathering... So comparing to DoW/DoM, you already have some alternatives to get away with things!
Can't agree more with this! I did enjoy my time fishing at Costa back then...No, that's not a lot of work. It's not work at all, in fact: it's a game.
Yes, leveling is a game you play, not work you do. How can it be work when you are paying to do it, instead of being paid?
Attitude is everything. The point of playing games is to have fun. So if you are logging into FFXIV to do work, you're doing it wrong and naturally won't enjoy it.
Perhaps you should try logging and and doing whatever you want at the time, instead of what you think you need to do. It can be watching the sun rise in Limsa, for example, I enjoy that occasionally. And when I do, I win.
Although later I got lazy and started buying fishes, LOL!
Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 09-21-2015 at 06:13 PM.
Fun comes when you done it. Be nice to have fun doing these things. The crafting side to everything is becoming a chore.

Ohh great idea.... lets kill gathering all together and crafting doesn't take any mats because of course that would be *hard work* having to do something other then crafting so you can craft. Of course I'd expect you to cut your priced down to 10,000th of what your currently charging because after all you don't need any mats anymore so everything would be a profit gain w/o much work at all.
So, moving on down past the totally crazy and utterly stupid idea's...
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