Same Red Scripts for CULINARIAN!!

[Hanmerreborn]

And I also believe you can't quick syn crystal class either...

And that's not dipping into how many and what raw items you need, compared to something like morel salad




And a morel salad without star gives around 10 scrips last I checked, or 45 crafts total. Before the change, something like the coif would only give somewhere around 19. It was very very cost/mateiral inefficent compared to morel salad before the change was implemented.

Exactly. Anyone who thinks cul are "doing more work" is delusional.

[Laurell]

Exactly. Anyone who thinks cul are "doing more work" is delusional.

Yeah I just spent a whopping 200k flat out buying all the mats needed to make Birch Rods on the MB. Meanwhile if I had made Morel Salads it would takes 5 times as long to cap out and run a net loss of roughly a million gil compared to selling them on the MB. Also of note Birch Rod is a completely useless item outside of Red Scrips, it isn't like you're ever going to sell any on the MB compared to Morel Salads.

[Ayerinn]

Yeah I just spent a whopping 200k flat out buying all the mats needed to make Birch Rods on the MB. *SNIP*

I only had GSM at 60 for the first week of turn ins (so pre buff) and the "cheapest" day would have cost me 2 million + gil worth of materials IF I farmed them myself - who cares that you are making a "useful" item you could have sold - of course it is going to be useful its food. How much would it cost you if it was Deep Fried Okeanis? Yeah, that's what I thought - either level other jobs for options or wait until it is a ridiculously cheap / easy recipe (let's not forget Marron Glace, the most lol worthy blue scrip turn in also happens to be CUL, shocker.) Having said that, we get 2 red scrip options per day for gatherer (although one is the legendary node,) so as Kabooa mentioned it would be nice if we had 2 options for DoH jobs too on a daily basis.

[Laurell]

I only had GSM at 60 for the first week of turn ins (so pre buff) and the "cheapest" day would have cost me 2 million + gil worth of materials IF I farmed them myself - who cares that you are making a "useful" item you could have sold - of course it is going to be useful its food. How much would it cost you if it was Deep Fried Okeanis? Yeah, that's what I thought - either level other jobs for options or wait until it is a ridiculously cheap / easy recipe (let's not forget Marron Glace, the most lol worthy blue scrip turn in also happens to be CUL, shocker.).

I don't get your point. No one cares about first week turn ins, everything is pretty available now, and Deep Fried Okeanis would be a roughly 1.5 million loss versus selling them if I bought all the mats. Also Blue Scrips are basically useless, outside of buying the Master books which are bought once, so it doesn't really matter which is cheapest

[Ayerinn]

*SNIP*

Point is Deep Fried Okeanis is ridiculously cheap and easy to make. It gives 9 scrips so worst case 50 to cap. My GSM has an Aurum Regis Staff and I get 36 for that, so rounding up I need 13 of them to cap (worst case.)
50 Okeanis =150 okeanis tail 50 highland flour 50 olive oil 50 dalamud popoto 50 Abalathian Rock salt 300 fire / 250 water crytals= ~ 455k MB prices
13 Aurum Regis Staff = 26 Aurum Nuggets 26 Adamantite Nuggets 13 birch lumber 26 carnelian 13 wing glue 26 wind / 13 fire clusters = 1.015 mil MB prices
It costs half as much to buy the same number of scrips with CUL vs GSM in this case - btw those materials used in the "useless staff" is worth millions making different items, so yeah that is not an argument to be made.

[Hanmerreborn]

Yeah I just spent a whopping 200k flat out buying all the mats needed to make Birch Rods on the MB. Meanwhile if I had made Morel Salads it would takes 5 times as long to cap out and run a net loss of roughly a million gil compared to selling them on the MB. Also of note Birch Rod is a completely useless item outside of Red Scrips, it isn't like you're ever going to sell any on the MB compared to Morel Salads.

And that relates to the amount of work involved in getting to cap...how?

[Laurell]

And that relates to the amount of work involved in getting to cap...how?

Specifically? It relates due to the fact the time investment for capping Red Scrips on Culinarian is greater than any another profession by a healthy margin. It doesn't logically make sense to produce Culinarian Collectibles as you could just finish the product, such as Morel Salad, and fund your way to another profession, such as CRP or whatever, with the time you would have wasted making Culinary Collectibles.

[Hanmerreborn]

Specifically? It relates due to the fact the time investment for capping Red Scrips on Culinarian is greater than any another profession by a healthy margin. It doesn't logically make sense to produce Culinarian Collectibles as you could just finish the product, such as Morel Salad, and fund your way to another profession, such as CRP or whatever, with the time you would have wasted making Culinary Collectibles.

And that is somehow different from every other profession...how?

Let's not just point out the fact that CUL is the only one that benefits having all their items being gatherable, meaning it only takes a single time investment in something you already should have completed.

To do scripts on every other class requires maxing another class or an actual physical cost in gil.

[Liv_Traisharan]

As someone who really only ever cares about Culinarian crafts, I feel you. However, in comparison with the other crafting jobs we have it easy. The real issue comes down to do you want to make all of that beautiful Morel Salad to sell for X gil a pop or do you want to make it for your red scrips? In the end, I think it works out to be the same. It's just less of a hassle for us to sit down and whip out some salads than it is to spend 30m at least putting together ONE item (gathering + synthing) only to give it over to a NPC. Some of those items for the other jobs can sell for upwards 200k each. That's kissing a lot of gil goodbye each week. Gil that could be better spent on T5 materia when it's more readily available!

[Ayerinn]

I do think Culnarian should get more red scrip for their crafts...assuming they change them to MASTER RECIPES that they need to make, just like ALL other DoH red scrips. Yes, I think CUL only people seem to forget that they are not making Master recipes...you want equality? Sure, how about they add, say, Creme Brulee to the rotation for 20-24 scrips? Be careful what you wish for...