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  1. #21
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    Ayerinn's Avatar
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    I do think Culnarian should get more red scrip for their crafts...assuming they change them to MASTER RECIPES that they need to make, just like ALL other DoH red scrips. Yes, I think CUL only people seem to forget that they are not making Master recipes...you want equality? Sure, how about they add, say, Creme Brulee to the rotation for 20-24 scrips? Be careful what you wish for...
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    Jace Ossura
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    No offense, but the master cul recipes are 1stars. They are significantly harder than level 60 no-stars in basic gear, so no. Putting their master recipes on the list doesn't help nor is it equivalent. They aren't that much more expensive, but it's far easier to max collectibility Goldsmith master turn ins compared to Cul.

    Honestly, they could just make everything easier for everyone and just put two red scrip options per profession for turn ins; That way you can at least do one if you don't want to do the other, while having a cycling of 14 potential recipes over a week.
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  3. #23
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    Mog The'cook
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanmerreborn View Post
    Exactly. Anyone who thinks cul are "doing more work" is delusional.
    Yeah I just spent a whopping 200k flat out buying all the mats needed to make Birch Rods on the MB. Meanwhile if I had made Morel Salads it would takes 5 times as long to cap out and run a net loss of roughly a million gil compared to selling them on the MB. Also of note Birch Rod is a completely useless item outside of Red Scrips, it isn't like you're ever going to sell any on the MB compared to Morel Salads.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    No offense, but the master cul recipes are 1stars. *SNIP*
    True, they are 1 star. I think it is funny that the CUL only people were laughing at everyone else because of how easy their red scrip turn ins were in comparison, and now they are complaining they don't get enough red scrips vs the other jobs now that the scrip turn ins have been buffed. Bottom line is this...not only do most of the CUL red scrip recipes require fewer ingredients than other job recipes, they ONLY REQUIRE CUL (and gatherer just like the others) to make yourself. The vast majority if not all of the other job scrip recipes require multiple items that are NOT created using that job. CUL is being rightly penalized for it being a lower difficulty recipe+generally fewer mats+no cross job requirements (to be self sufficient.)

    If it bothers people that much level another job for scrip turn ins...
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurell View Post
    Yeah I just spent a whopping 200k flat out buying all the mats needed to make Birch Rods on the MB. *SNIP*
    I only had GSM at 60 for the first week of turn ins (so pre buff) and the "cheapest" day would have cost me 2 million + gil worth of materials IF I farmed them myself - who cares that you are making a "useful" item you could have sold - of course it is going to be useful its food. How much would it cost you if it was Deep Fried Okeanis? Yeah, that's what I thought - either level other jobs for options or wait until it is a ridiculously cheap / easy recipe (let's not forget Marron Glace, the most lol worthy blue scrip turn in also happens to be CUL, shocker.) Having said that, we get 2 red scrip options per day for gatherer (although one is the legendary node,) so as Kabooa mentioned it would be nice if we had 2 options for DoH jobs too on a daily basis.
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayerinn View Post
    I only had GSM at 60 for the first week of turn ins (so pre buff) and the "cheapest" day would have cost me 2 million + gil worth of materials IF I farmed them myself - who cares that you are making a "useful" item you could have sold - of course it is going to be useful its food. How much would it cost you if it was Deep Fried Okeanis? Yeah, that's what I thought - either level other jobs for options or wait until it is a ridiculously cheap / easy recipe (let's not forget Marron Glace, the most lol worthy blue scrip turn in also happens to be CUL, shocker.).
    I don't get your point. No one cares about first week turn ins, everything is pretty available now, and Deep Fried Okeanis would be a roughly 1.5 million loss versus selling them if I bought all the mats. Also Blue Scrips are basically useless, outside of buying the Master books which are bought once, so it doesn't really matter which is cheapest
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurell View Post
    Yeah I just spent a whopping 200k flat out buying all the mats needed to make Birch Rods on the MB. Meanwhile if I had made Morel Salads it would takes 5 times as long to cap out and run a net loss of roughly a million gil compared to selling them on the MB. Also of note Birch Rod is a completely useless item outside of Red Scrips, it isn't like you're ever going to sell any on the MB compared to Morel Salads.
    And that relates to the amount of work involved in getting to cap...how?
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanmerreborn View Post
    And that relates to the amount of work involved in getting to cap...how?
    Specifically? It relates due to the fact the time investment for capping Red Scrips on Culinarian is greater than any another profession by a healthy margin. It doesn't logically make sense to produce Culinarian Collectibles as you could just finish the product, such as Morel Salad, and fund your way to another profession, such as CRP or whatever, with the time you would have wasted making Culinary Collectibles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurell View Post
    *SNIP*
    Point is Deep Fried Okeanis is ridiculously cheap and easy to make. It gives 9 scrips so worst case 50 to cap. My GSM has an Aurum Regis Staff and I get 36 for that, so rounding up I need 13 of them to cap (worst case.)
    50 Okeanis =150 okeanis tail 50 highland flour 50 olive oil 50 dalamud popoto 50 Abalathian Rock salt 300 fire / 250 water crytals= ~ 455k MB prices
    13 Aurum Regis Staff = 26 Aurum Nuggets 26 Adamantite Nuggets 13 birch lumber 26 carnelian 13 wing glue 26 wind / 13 fire clusters = 1.015 mil MB prices
    It costs half as much to buy the same number of scrips with CUL vs GSM in this case - btw those materials used in the "useless staff" is worth millions making different items, so yeah that is not an argument to be made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurell View Post
    Specifically? It relates due to the fact the time investment for capping Red Scrips on Culinarian is greater than any another profession by a healthy margin. It doesn't logically make sense to produce Culinarian Collectibles as you could just finish the product, such as Morel Salad, and fund your way to another profession, such as CRP or whatever, with the time you would have wasted making Culinary Collectibles.
    And that is somehow different from every other profession...how?

    Let's not just point out the fact that CUL is the only one that benefits having all their items being gatherable, meaning it only takes a single time investment in something you already should have completed.

    To do scripts on every other class requires maxing another class or an actual physical cost in gil.
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