Only two new expert dungeons every patch?

[Kazama]

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No argument there, hunts are terrible. But still, the game is not lacking in "Casual" gameplay content. You have all of Golden Saucer, Fates, Dungeons and everything is designed for casual gamers. Contrary to what you say, raiding savage is not content. It's repeating content that has walls everywhere. If anything, the hardcore crowd is the most disappointed with everything in FFXIV as the entire game is catered to casual players and newbies to MMOs.

[Colorful]

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You claim repeatable content with walls that are built so the "hardcore" players take time to learn and beat the content isn't content, but FATEs where you repeat the same content where you can press 1 button over and over to win is? I get that there's content to be had, but I'm specifically talking about PvE content, as in, Trials, Raids, and Dungeons. Not minigames like the Gold Saucer. I want to know how you define hardcore, a huge time investment? If so, Gold Saucer can be considered "hardcore" as the two mounts together would cost 1.2 million MGP, and that's a massive investment of time (or luck, with the lottery). Relics can be considered hardcore content, as they're also a huge time and gil investment, as is high end crafting, etc.

[Averax]

As long as they are fun and not as dreadful as fractal continuum and neverreap, i don't care.

[Amiantos]

As long as they are fun and not as dreadful as fractal continuum and neverreap, i don't care.

I thought Fractal is quite fun. Doesn't have constant stops in fights like Neverreap does.

[Belhi]

They have said previously that the FC airship stuff will be designed so people outside of the FC can be invited along. Depending on the numbers the new content needs it won't be surprising to see FCs recruiting people through Party Finder and such to fill out their teams before heading out on missions. Small FCs can make alliances with other FCs to do the content and it has potential for players who aren't in an FC to potentially get recruited.

Sure it's open to exploitation and abuse but on the flipside it could be very good for community building. My FC already shares a linkshell with a couple of others for raiding purposes. I could easily see FC alliances and Sky Island Linkshells forming around such content.

Being blunt, this is a reality of breaking the mold on content. There needs to be a trade off. People are always asking for new things on this forum. The thing is, something always has to be given up for that new stuff to be made.

[AsteriaStarfall]

See what happens...players cry out for different types of content instead of thr same rehashed ARR content....and then complain when they have to cut development in one area to allow for it.

[NovaLevossida]

I'm siding with Mr. Happy on this: don't take the old dungeons out of Expert roulette. Nothing kills my desire to farm esoterics more than running only two dungeons.

[Colorful]

I'm siding with Mr. Happy on this: don't take the old dungeons out of Expert roulette. Nothing kills my desire to farm esoterics more than running only two dungeons.

Considering High Level Roulette is now populated with level 50 dungeons, this would be a viable alternative. It would bring a lot more variety than just 3 dungeons, even if some of them are older.

[Obysuca]

don't take the old dungeons out of Expert roulette.

>_> I was actually just thinking about that the other day. Sure, it'd still be running a few of the same dungeons, but there'd be more options in what you get from expert if they'd keep the dungeons in it, rather than moving them to high lvl.

For instance, they could add 2 more dungeons to expert, while keeping neverreap and fractal, but either tossing that gear somewhere else and putting a higher ilvl gear into those (while having that same gear drop from the 2 new ones) and also increasing the difficulty a little so it matches the 2 new ones (so you don't get those people dropping out because they didn't get the lower ilvl one). Tbh, they could give those amber things from leves a use. New dungeons come out? Old expert dungeon gear goes to that npc. It really shouldn't be that difficult to do, but then again, this is SE

Also, think about it. If they shoved Neverreap and Fractal into high lvl, that could end up locking high lvl for people who aren't 60, seeing as how every time they've added new trials and such, you've had to do them to reunlock the roulette.

[Zohar_Lahar]

Also, think about it. If they shoved Neverreap and Fractal into high lvl, that could end up locking high lvl for people who aren't 60, seeing as how every time they've added new trials and such, you've had to do them to reunlock the roulette.

I'd prefer if the current High-Level Roulette be kept separate from level 60 dungeons.