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  1. #141
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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    People being rude in online games is nothing new.
    Moving around in any online environment where people are essentially 100% anonymous and do not have to face any consequences whatsoever always necessitates a thick skin.

    That being said: if you play suboptimally in group content, don't argue around that fact. Stop playing suboptimally.
    It's not polite to waste other peoples time.
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  2. #142
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    Koppo Sandstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
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    And it's the focus on end behavior and not the surrounding causes that lead to them that will continue to leave online communities a disheveled mess. But it's clear to me you're not interested in discussing that. Very well.
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  3. #143
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    T2teddy's Avatar
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    Fionn Iolair
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    You know what? None of you should have been inventing possible 'scenarios'. You should simply have said you didn't have enough info and would you please explain a lot more thoroughly please, Boosti.
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  4. #144
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    Alkaid Hayasaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    You know what? None of you should have been inventing possible 'scenarios'. You should simply have said you didn't have enough info and would you please explain a lot more thoroughly please, Boosti.
    Pretty sure at some point they tried to prod for more info but he kept repeating things like a damaged record which is what lead to the skepticism in the first place.
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  5. #145
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    Karse Farrence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis_Nephthys View Post
    You must not be aware that mage's ballad cuts your own damage by 20%
    Hmm i believe its 15% now but yah still it reduce your damage massively. So should only be use when really need it.
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2teddy View Post
    You know what? None of you should have been inventing possible 'scenarios'. You should simply have said you didn't have enough info and would you please explain a lot more thoroughly please, Boosti.
    What's there to tell?
    He made an error in play/judgment, got called out on it and instead of accepting that he erred he started to construct weird scenarios just to be "right" after all.
    Obviously by doing that he put oil into the fire and the randoms just snapped. (not condoning their insults, merely explaining a possibility why they "enraged")

    What he should have done is say: "Yep Sorry, my bad.", switch it off and finish the run.

    People in these games think they are Gods gift to gaming, criticizing their playstyle is like heresy and they have to defend themselves at all costs.
    SO annoying. Just admit your mistake, learn from it, be a better player and move on.
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  7. #147
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    Yomiko Readman
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    It's hard when other players say something that you think you're doing right, is wrong.

    It's even harder when that other players are saying it in an offensive way.

    Nowadays, my expectations for PUGs are very low. If the tank can hold threat against me, I consider that an A+. If the healer can SOMETIMES push a button to heal, I consider it an A++.

    If a BRD gets his Mage's Ballad up all the time, I consider it as a pass. Because at least he's spamming heavy shots as well instead of just sitting there.

    I gave up giving advice. If you give advice in any manner at all, you're being seen as a jerk. So, I stop being a jerk and not care at all.
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  8. #148
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    Khemorex's Avatar
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    Khalindra Nela
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    What's there to tell?
    He made an error in play/judgment, got called out on it and instead of accepting that he erred he started to construct weird scenarios just to be "right" after all.
    Obviously by doing that he put oil into the fire and the randoms just snapped. (not condoning their insults, merely explaining a possibility why they "enraged")

    What he should have done is say: "Yep Sorry, my bad.", switch it off and finish the run.

    People in these games think they are Gods gift to gaming, criticizing their playstyle is like heresy and they have to defend themselves at all costs.
    SO annoying. Just admit your mistake, learn from it, be a better player and move on.
    Nothing wrong with telling people stuff , though the way some people do it is just plain insulting :P
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  9. #149
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    You need to look at it mathematically, cutting your own dps by 20% for ballad so the healer could dps a bit would not help anyone out at all, healers need to heal or people die, and by cutting your dps you are making mobs take longer to kill which is making the healer have to heal more.

    The faster the mobs die, the faster the tank doesn't take damage, ballad is used if the healer has no mana for some reason and even then they have saints shroud/potions.

    The person that was bothering you about it was actually correct and you were in the wrong by gimping the partys potential dps.
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  10. #150
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    Nothing wrong with telling people stuff , though the way some people do it is just plain insulting :P
    Ofc course you have to voice criticism in a Vulcan manner. Don't get all emotional, flame a random to death and expect him to heed your advice.
    Problem is: even polite, constructive critique is IMMEDIATELY seen as a grave insult by a certain player population (the one that yaps that they "have a life" and "only play for fun"), so there really is no winnable scenario with these people.

    If they gimp too hard, to the point of being a blocker to progress and don't want to listen to reason, that's why there is a vote kick system.
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