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    Lantia's Avatar
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    Tihomir Avesna
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    Lich
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by Seryl199 View Post
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    Yeah as long as the Sandwhich Boss is not killing you read the following:
    1) It is a game were everyone should have fun. You are not a god who should advice people how to play.
    Explain them the mechanics but please do not explain their jobs. They will figure it out how to work with. If a dungeon is working smoothly with a handfull of skills then why should they use more? You are also not healing more as you need. As also a Tank is not generating more aggro as needed.

    2) It is a goddamned game.... if it kills you that a dungeon can really use all of the allowed time: Do not run dungeons.... the timer is there for a reason... I mean do you really go into a dungeon with the idea: "Ahhh in 20 mins I can go to the next"?
    Something must be wrong with you then... when I go into a dungeon nothing matters as to complete the dungeon. Even if we wipe 30 times I do not care. Cause it is a damn game. Only if a boss is not killable in the current setup we talk to each other and then we try it again.... thats it.

    3) Stop giving advice! For each word you are writting into the chat you cannot do your own job! So do not cry for "something goes slow" if you also slow things down with your crying.... I mean... makes totally sense to slow down things that you can cry about... slow down things... wtf
    Most of the time you will never see them again.... do you really would like to use your breath for things which are going to be ignored once the dungeon is done?
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    fm_fenrir's Avatar
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    Makasita Fenrir
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lantia View Post
    I mean do you really go into a dungeon with the idea: "Ahhh in 20 mins I can go to the next"?
    Yes. I don't have nine hours a day to play, and I certainly don't have 40 minutes to waste on a dungeon that can be done in 15-20 if everyone is doing their job properly. If you only do one dungeon a day, sure, knock your socks off, but if you have five roulettes lined up and they all take twice as long as they should because of laziness...
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    #gitgud

    Ongoing mission: Tank everything on DRG. On purpose.

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    Dante_V's Avatar
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    Dante Venarra
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by fm_fenrir View Post
    Yes. I don't have nine hours a day to play, and I certainly don't have 40 minutes to waste on a dungeon that can be done in 15-20 if everyone is doing their job properly. If you only do one dungeon a day, sure, knock your socks off, but if you have five roulettes lined up and they all take twice as long as they should because of laziness...
    Agree 100% and just to clarify, the bad player isn't the tank who left, the bad player is the one getting carried (OR EXPECTING TOO) thru a very easy dungeon because they are too entitled to do any work.
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    Subucnimorning's Avatar
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    Blue Lightt
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lantia View Post
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    Some people don't like having their time wasted, it is one thing if someone is lower gear even that won't slow the run down THAT much. It is when people just don't care about the fact they are wasting other people's time by being lazy that is bothersome. That is just plain rude when you are playing a game that involves other people. If you play a 1 person game then sure I don't care how you play it, but you should be giving a solid effort when it involves group play.

    Your post shows you don't have much respect for your own time. Yes, it is a game, but that doesn't mean I should have to put up with something that should take 20 minutes taking 60+ minutes because someone can't be bothered to put forth proper effort. I rarely say anything to people in the group that is negative it has to be pretty bad but I don't agree with your premise that you shouldn't speak up if someone is clearly wasting everyone's time.
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    Delferia Seule
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Lantia View Post
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    1)Yes, everyone should have fun. 3 people being held back on account of one person is not fun. If a battle is being extended because of poor DPS, then absolutely more healing is needed. If a 30 second encounter takes 50 seconds and I stop healing after 30 seconds, the tank is going to die.

    2)I don't mind if dungeons take long. I don't mind wiping, in fact, I love coaching newbies through something they find challenging. I cleared a Sunken Temple of Qarn NM with less than 10 seconds on the clock. If everyone is trying their best it will get done.

    3)I rarely give advice, due to the fact that it most often ends like the OP's case and falls on deaf ears. Like I said, it's your responsibility to know your role. I usually stay quiet and out-DPS them on healer, solely out of courtesy to the others that queued, but on a bad day I don't hesitate to drop if someone is willfully wasting my time. It's players like in the OP that care so little they'll even tell you straight up that bother me. Just try your best and we will get along fine.
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