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    Laerune's Avatar
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    This is sadly a common experience for me. I see:
    - Tanks never use their defensive cooldown.

    - DPS never use their cooldown aswell and I noticed that the dps classes which have use a certain skill to get % amount of extra dps , never use them.

    - Healers never prepare for big damage spells, they rather wait till the players are very low hp.

    - (This is more of a choice then lazy) As a healer whenever I do Leveling Roulette or High Roulette, I have always 90% mana left, so I help the group by doing dps. When I tank or dps in a Leveling Roulette, I get a healer who sits on 90% mana left and does nothing in a fight. I know that one plays a healer to heal, but standing there doing nothing is pointless, so why not help and finish the run faster?

    - Bard never use their songs, even the one that increases the dps of other players.

    - As a Summoner whenever a healer dies, I ress the healer and we continue. Yesterday something happend and the healer died, I was playing as a Ninja, so I could not help. There was a summoner and he did nothing. When the group asked why he did not ress the healer, he answered with "I am dps, I did not join to ress others". I have seen this happen alot of times, I dont understand why people are so lazy?
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    Last edited by Laerune; 08-19-2015 at 09:02 PM.

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    Egnasya's Avatar
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    Sene Hartmann
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 42
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    I know that one plays a healer to heal, but standing there doing nothing is pointless, so why not help and finish the run faster?
    Well you don't know the others' mind set. Your healer might simply feel uncomfortable switching to Cleric Stance, fearing to be unable to bring their healing when needed. A legitimate issue when you're not entirely familiar with healing in this game. Personally I never try DPSing as healer until I get a feeling for those random players in my group.


    Generally I do not think it is our place to judge how others play, at least not as long as things go fine. If that's not the case you may start giving advice (!), not before. Who cares if you agree on how Fred Anonymous uses his CDs as long as that doesn't wipe you? I certainly do not, and I don't want others to judge my play style just as well. There is no definite right or wrong to these things, as much as some want everyone to play by the doctrine of class guides.
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  3. 08-19-2015 11:08 PM
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    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Ashe Sinclair
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Egnasya View Post
    Well you don't know the others' mind set. Your healer might simply feel uncomfortable switching to Cleric Stance, fearing to be unable to bring their healing when needed. A legitimate issue when you're not entirely familiar with healing in this game. Personally I never try DPSing as healer until I get a feeling for those random players in my group.


    Generally I do not think it is our place to judge how others play, at least not as long as things go fine. If that's not the case you may start giving advice (!), not before. Who cares if you agree on how Fred Anonymous uses his CDs as long as that doesn't wipe you? I certainly do not, and I don't want others to judge my play style just as well. There is no definite right or wrong to these things, as much as some want everyone to play by the doctrine of class guides.
    This! Particularly during the first half of a duty, I hold off on DPSing to gauge how much damage the group takes and how much I'm needed. Once/ if I'm comfortable, you'll get your gosh darn DPS. If you still see me not turning on CS but you're not taking much damage, more likely than not there'll be a special snowflake in the group who drops to 50% the minute I start to cast Stone.

    It's better I stand there for an extra two seconds and keep everyone topped up rather than throwing out a flimsy Stone and end up with half the DPS on low HP just to please grouchy players.

    Really, I've seen a lot of players whose actions make me go "...?", but if they're doing their job, it's not my place to tell them how to play.
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    Assirra's Avatar
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    M'irau Rhya
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    This is sadly a common experience for me. I see:
    - Healers never prepare for big damage spells, they rather wait till the players are very low hp.

    - (This is more of a choice then lazy) As a healer whenever I do Leveling Roulette or High Roulette, I have always 90% mana left, so I help the group by doing dps. When I tank or dps in a Leveling Roulette, I get a healer who sits on 90% mana left and does nothing in a fight. I know that one plays a healer to heal, but standing there doing nothing is pointless, so why not help and finish the run faster?
    I tend to be really little in cleric stance tbh.
    Why? Because there is always that 1 person that gets hits by everything.
    As an atrologian i have 1 shit button and i don't wanna use it on stupid nonsense like that when the tank might require it a bit later.
    However when i was a scholar in 2.x i was in cleric stance a lot more, a fairy backing you up does wonders.
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