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    Areku Foxfire
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    A savage static without a paladin

    Would this be okay? (Warrior and Dark Knight, of course. No doubles)

    Paladin is just so good as an MT I feel like a group without one might be gimped...and if you had this comp, who would be a better MT?

    The MT in my static quit the game today so now I'm brainstorming for stuff to do to resolve this. Wanted some opinions, because I know a couple warriors...
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    Naomi Enami
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    All three tanks are excellent in both, the MT and OT positions.

    Not having a PLD will only mean you might want the WAR to MT some fights instead of the DRK.

    None of the tank compositions is gimped in anyway. Unless you're running doubles then you risk limit break build up issues.
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Maybe it's more flexible than I thought...though an offtank paladin sounds odd. I must still be in the 2.0 mindset.
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    Repoe Zessed
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    as pheonica stated , shouldn't be an issue. a lot if not most tanks have multiple tanks leveled, myself included as i like to mix it up on occasion. just because you see other groups (world/server firsts) clearing with X-job composition doesn't make it the only possible way to defeat a certain Raid- play to yours/your groups abilities and go with what works best.
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    I don't even watch the top groups or anything, more just...I thought paladin MT was a required thing. I haven't paid much attention to tanking changes since HW dropped, I admit.

    Can't hurt to give it a try.
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    ^^ OT pld is dope, their toolkit at 60 has nice support. Cover followed by clemency, divine well, my pally tank partner even does the shelltron>provoke>shield lob just to take a hit when my war stacks are low or bloodbath/foresight drops off.
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    Naomi Enami
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    PLD has always been a great OT since 2.0. PLD OT became that much better with 3.0 additions. PLD was crap in 1.x.

    WAR has always been a great MT since 1.0. WAR in 2.0 lacked a bit, but as a matter of fact, only things WAR couldn't solo MT in 2.0 were T5 and double Dreads in T4. WAR MT became a power house in 2.1 and beyond.

    Nothing changed for these tanks in 3.0. These two just got better at what they do in both roles, MT and OT.

    DRK is a great MT in magical fights. DRK has the same basic defensive CD structure as PLD. DRK OT lacks utility but brings good DPS.

    As I said, any combo of tanks works perfectly as long as you know who should do what.
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    Thanks for the info. :3 This should help my static find a tank a lot easier.
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    Val Vermillion
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    My statics MT is a DRK so it's definitely doable. Just takes some adjustments on your healers part but you will lack some utilities in exchange for slightly more doable dps.
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    Phoebus Lucidus
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    One thing to note is if you don't have a MNK DRK is a little nicer due to delirium providing the int down debuff.

    If you do have a monk pld is nice for str down debuff and still get int down debuff.

    Drgs work nice with Drk
    Mnk works nice with Pld
    Nin works nice with War.

    Just nice due to rotations and debuffs supplied, not at all required.
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