Extra Fishing Lure Inventory Please! :)

[Roth_Trailfinder]

you don't understand that you're solving the problem by PAYING for the retainers. that's the solution. it costs money. you give them money, problem solved. without paying them, it's still a character storage memory issue.
Sure they could release a tackle box, but it would mean they still have to upgrade their servers to do so. and you want this for free? without paying extra, when you have to pay extra for other similar storage? good luck.

That sort of payment is part and parcel with the subscription. Like it or not, admit it or not, SE is gouging by charging for Retainers. And if they charged for Lure Storage Space, that would be gouging too.

The whole point of the subscription is to pay for the cost of maintaining and upgrading the servers and infrastructure. If providing what customers want (more storage space) requires an infrastructure upgrade, that's what partly what the subscription is for.

[chaoelite]

Heck i would pay for the extra space each month to carry and use all my lures if that's what it takes.

[Warlyx]

the issue with lures is the same issue we have with prism , retarded system , its cool that we can use lots of bait & tackle....but come on now

leveling fishing is a inventory nightmare, btw lure and 4-5 fish x2 (HQ) ....ugh

[TechnoTechie]

That sort of payment is part and parcel with the subscription. Like it or not, admit it or not, SE is gouging by charging for Retainers. And if they charged for Lure Storage Space, that would be gouging too.

The whole point of the subscription is to pay for the cost of maintaining and upgrading the servers and infrastructure. If providing what customers want (more storage space) requires an infrastructure upgrade, that's what partly what the subscription is for.

actually the original subscription sounds like it's enough to cover just the basic inventory and free retainers. some people do use their entire alotment of character slots, which means that they're using more than their monthly subscription covers, and it evens out with people who only have one or two characters but pay for the "standard" subscription. Think of it this way: if one inventory space consumed 1 kb of storage, and there are at least 2 million subscribers, that one space of storage ends up consuming 2 GB of server storage, and only assuming everyone has only one character. I would take a guess and say that the average number of characters per person is 3. A 25-slot "lure storage space" is suddenly consuming an extra 150 GB of server storage, bandwidth (per minute? per hour?), and back-up storage (because otherwise if the wrong hard-drive were to fail or lose a sector, you would suddenly have 0 gil. what?) which needs at least some degree of redundancy.
your subscription cost isn't only going towards that, but it also has to pay the developers for maintaining the game (bug fixes, additional content patches, and maintaining the websites), maintaining the forums, and probably other things that go beyond the scope of this post that I can't think of off the top of my head.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

All of that is part of the subscription, yes.

But don't let all those other things blind you to the fact that storage space, which they've chosen to implement as the Retainer system, is part of those costs too.

[TechnoTechie]

All of that is part of the subscription, yes.

But don't let all those other things blind you to the fact that storage space, which they've chosen to implement as the Retainer system, is part of those costs too.

the original two, yes.

[LineageRazor]

All of that is part of the subscription, yes.

But don't let all those other things blind you to the fact that storage space, which they've chosen to implement as the Retainer system, is part of those costs too.

I dunno... If we accept it as true that the monthly subscription is enough money for SE to maintain our standard storage (inventory plus two retainers), and that adding additional storage means that SE would need to charge additional money to maintain it, then there are two options: Raise the monthly subscription price for EVERYONE by a small amount, regardless of whether they use the space, or limit the extra costs only to those who are using the additional space.

I don't think it's the case that everyone already has this extra space, and SE is just charging a fee to unlock it. Very likely, if today, EVERYONE with a subscription were to suddenly buy six extra retainers, SE would not have the capacity to be able to handle it. They would need to obtain the additional hardware, and while they did a certain (probably large) percentage of players would be told that they can't obtain an additional retainer at this time, please wait a while and try again.

It's my belief that SE added the Retainer subscription model specifically because they knew it would allow them to shortchange players on inventory space... because they knew that the vast majority of players don't NEED that additional space. For the average casual player who doesn't field multiple crafting or gathering classes and levels only one or two combat classes, inventory plus two retainers is ample space for their needs. It's not shortchanging them one bit. To keep basic subscription costs low, they charge more for the players who actually use it.

Do I like it? Of course not. I'm one of the players who has to pay. But it does make sense.

[TechnoTechie]

I don't think it's the case that everyone already has this extra space, and SE is just charging a fee to unlock it. Very likely, if today, EVERYONE with a subscription were to suddenly buy six extra retainers, SE would not have the capacity to be able to handle it. They would need to obtain the additional hardware, and while they did a certain (probably large) percentage of players would be told that they can't obtain an additional retainer at this time, please wait a while and try again.

I think they do charge a bit more than what the storage capacity allows for, but I feel in any business you would do this because of expected demand increase and giving you the capability to expand your assets before said demand hits. The first few people buying additional retainers was probably a hint to SE telling them that "yes, people want this space" and so they upgraded capacity in response, such that in heavensward they were able to double the capacity. I feel like SE has the space to allow everyone to upgrade to 8 retainers at this very moment, but that charging people to do that would partially compensate for the previous upgrade, as well as fund future upgrade and maintenance.