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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Sorry, not a valid excuse. They could add a tackle box without any memory issues the same way they keep adding new retainers with added inventory space without such issues. The only change SE needs to make is instead of the tackle box stored as character data, it could be stored as retainer style data for that character. That tackle box style retainer storage data is only accessed when click tackle box/bait skills much like how summon bells works for calling forth retainers and their additional inventories. It took me five minutes to come up with a viable and workable solution as edited/mentioned above which solves their so called issue/problem so yes SE are lazy if couldn't spend five minutes to come up with such a solution themselves despite having over a year+ of people asking for such.



    It's not a global inventory issue else they would not have just added the option of 6 retainers people can buy via mogstation (I think 2 could buy from ages ago and 4 new ones of which just got added). It is according to SE a character inventory memory issue which I have just solved above, a solution that allows for a tackle box for our baits and lures that would work without any additional character inventory memory issues. SE can no longer use that excuse because they have been given a method for solving it and now it simply becomes whether they care enough to make use of it and appease the constant stream of threads and posts over time that keep asking for such. I just handed them a solution on a silver platter which would allow them to give all us fishers what we want while also putting an end to the excuse they have been using for not giving us it.

    I have solved their problem and now it's 100% down to whether or not they care enough to make use of it.
    you solved nothing.

    it's still storage space on the servers, multiplied by everyone who has a character, regardless of if they unlock it or not. Your "solution" amounts to nothing more than a "free retainer" which burdens servers because it's extra storage space; the reason why we pay for extra retainers is because of that fact. The most likely solution would they charge you to have a tackle box if they DID go this route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoTechie View Post
    it's still storage space on the servers, multiplied by everyone who has a character, regardless of if they unlock it or not. Your "solution" amounts to nothing more than a "free retainer" which burdens servers because it's extra storage space; the reason why we pay for extra retainers is because of that fact. The most likely solution would they charge you to have a tackle box if they DID go this route.
    They have said they could not do it due to character storage memory, even before they introduced four new retainers can buy from mogstation...now totaling eight you can have. They would not have added them if retainers are restricted by the same memory problem that stopped them giving us a tackle box before because that same restriction would of applied to those retainers. If they can add retainers whenever they want in mogstation then they can use one of those for tackle box storage proposed in my solution above. If you think you have a better solution feel free to make it known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    They have said they could not do it due to character storage memory, even before they introduced four new retainers can buy from mogstation...now totaling eight you can have. They would not have added them if retainers are restricted by the same memory problem that stopped them giving us a tackle box before because that same restriction would of applied to those retainers. If they can add retainers whenever they want in mogstation then they can use one of those for tackle box storage proposed in my solution above. If you think you have a better solution feel free to make it known.
    you don't understand that you're solving the problem by PAYING for the retainers. that's the solution. it costs money. you give them money, problem solved. without paying them, it's still a character storage memory issue.
    Sure they could release a tackle box, but it would mean they still have to upgrade their servers to do so. and you want this for free? without paying extra, when you have to pay extra for other similar storage? good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechnoTechie View Post
    you don't understand that you're solving the problem by PAYING for the retainers. that's the solution. it costs money. you give them money, problem solved. without paying them, it's still a character storage memory issue.
    Sure they could release a tackle box, but it would mean they still have to upgrade their servers to do so. and you want this for free? without paying extra, when you have to pay extra for other similar storage? good luck.
    That sort of payment is part and parcel with the subscription. Like it or not, admit it or not, SE is gouging by charging for Retainers. And if they charged for Lure Storage Space, that would be gouging too.

    The whole point of the subscription is to pay for the cost of maintaining and upgrading the servers and infrastructure. If providing what customers want (more storage space) requires an infrastructure upgrade, that's what partly what the subscription is for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roth_Trailfinder View Post
    That sort of payment is part and parcel with the subscription. Like it or not, admit it or not, SE is gouging by charging for Retainers. And if they charged for Lure Storage Space, that would be gouging too.

    The whole point of the subscription is to pay for the cost of maintaining and upgrading the servers and infrastructure. If providing what customers want (more storage space) requires an infrastructure upgrade, that's what partly what the subscription is for.
    actually the original subscription sounds like it's enough to cover just the basic inventory and free retainers. some people do use their entire alotment of character slots, which means that they're using more than their monthly subscription covers, and it evens out with people who only have one or two characters but pay for the "standard" subscription. Think of it this way: if one inventory space consumed 1 kb of storage, and there are at least 2 million subscribers, that one space of storage ends up consuming 2 GB of server storage, and only assuming everyone has only one character. I would take a guess and say that the average number of characters per person is 3. A 25-slot "lure storage space" is suddenly consuming an extra 150 GB of server storage, bandwidth (per minute? per hour?), and back-up storage (because otherwise if the wrong hard-drive were to fail or lose a sector, you would suddenly have 0 gil. what?) which needs at least some degree of redundancy.
    your subscription cost isn't only going towards that, but it also has to pay the developers for maintaining the game (bug fixes, additional content patches, and maintaining the websites), maintaining the forums, and probably other things that go beyond the scope of this post that I can't think of off the top of my head.
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