Collectibles rotation

[XgungraveX]

so i decided to tackle the red scrip grind for miner
what are some good rotation for Collectibles.
im at 657 gathering and 636 perception with 603 gp
i need adamanite ore atm

[KyegimyaAsura]

For Adamantite Ore:

Discerning Eye -> Impulsive Appraisal -> Single Mind / Discerning Eye (Use Single Mind if Discerning Eye proc'ed from Impulsive) -> Impulsive Appraisal -> Single Mind / Discerning Eye (Same deal here, Single Mind if Discerning Eye proc'ed from Impulsive) -> Methodical Appraisal.

You'll get 482 item rarity and up to 4 possible gathers with a minimum of 2. It's the best rotation I'm aware of.

[AlereRaeder]

It's the best rotation I'm aware of.

There is in fact a higher yield rotation for red scrip gathering. Here it is:

Impulsive > Impulsive > Utmost Caution + Single Mind + Impulsive > Utmost Caution + (If any of the first 3 proc, replace DE with Single Mind) Discerning Eye + Methodical.

[taken from https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rvm1?context=3]

This rotation has higher yield over time. It guarantees 2 gathers and with 3 impulsives you can get a 3rd gather rather easily.

• This rotation cannot get 4 gathers which is perfect RNG from what KyegimyaAsura posted: .3 x .3= .09(9%) chance to get 4 gathers.

Even so with a possible 4th gather, the rotation I mentioned is better overall, and can get 2x 530 collectability if 1 impulsive procs and you DE the final Method or perfect RNG proc on the 2nd and 3rd impulsive can get you 3x 530 collectables.

[Rath]

There is in fact a higher yield rotation for red scrip gathering. Here it is:

Impulsive > Impulsive > Utmost Caution + Single Mind + Impulsive > Utmost Caution + (If any of the first 3 proc, replace DE with Single Mind) Discerning Eye + Methodical.

[taken from https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...rvm1?context=3]

This rotation has higher yield over time.

• This rotation cannot get 4 gathers.

Even so with a possible 4th gather, the rotation I mentioned is better overall, and can get 2x 530 collectability if 1 impulsive procs and you DE the final Method or perfect RNG proc on the 2nd and 3rd impulsive can get you 3x 530 collectables.

Edit: Was thinking 480 not 470 doh!

If you want a quick and simple rotation that gives 2-4 gathers on red scrips:
(DE+Impulsive) 155 + (DE+Impulsive) <proc> 155 +(SM+Methodical) 172 = 482 3 gathers
(DE+Impulsive <proc> 155 + (SM+Impulsive) <proc> 155 + (SM+Methodical) 172 = 482 4 gathers
(De+Impulsive) 155 + (DE+ impulsive) 155 + (DE+Methodical) 172 = 482 2 gathers

Aetherial reduction:
Non hidden item or no impulsive procs: Impulsive 103 + impulsive 103 + methodical 115 = clusters and shards. Go touch two nodes at two different locations and return.
Hidden item: Impulsive <proc> 103 + (SM+UC+Methodical) 172 + (UC+Impulsive) 103 + (DE+Methodical) 172 = 550 1 gather 8/8 purity
Impulsive Impulsive 103 + Impulsive <proc> 103 + (SM+UC+Methodical) 172 + (DE+UC+Methodical) 172 = 550 1 gather 8/8 purity
Impulsive <proc> 103 (SM+UC+Methodical) 172 + Impulsive <proc> 103 + (SM+UC+Methodical) 172 = 550 2 gathers 8/8 purity

[AlereRaeder]

Hey Rath I see you around often thanks for contributing.

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470 is the requirement for red scrips(450 blue). I would amend if the method appraisal you added here:

Impulsive 103+ impulsive 103 <proc> +(UC+SM+methodical) 172+ (UC+SM+methodical) 115= 493 = 3 gathers

actually made a difference to the amount you got from turning them in (500-529) which it doesn't, and does matter because both skills would get you over 470 and 3 gathers.

The rotation I posted is greater because it has a more expected value in terms of overall yield. Sure you can get 4 gathers with the simple rotation you posted and only 3 gathers with reddits; although, the simple one can only get a 3rd gather at a 60%(.3 +.3) and 4th gather is a 9%(.3 x .3=.09) chance if 2 procs back to back. With the one I posted you have 3 chances at getting a 3rd gather at a 90% chance( .3 + .3 +.3).

Getting 4 gathers is great but I'm always getting 3 gathers at a 90% chance instead of 60%, and a slim 9% for that 4th gather. (correct me if im wrong)

[XgungraveX]

so is 530 not possible yet with my current stats?

[KyegimyaAsura]

You can easily get 530, you'll just need to use a different rotation.

Utmost Caution -> Implusive Appraisal -> Single Mind/Discerning Eye* -> Methodical Appraisal -> Utmost Caution -> Impulsive Appraisal -> Single Mind/Discerning Eye* -> Methodical Appraisal
*Same as before. This guarantees one collect, but you can get up to 3.

Also as a heads up further improvements to your perception will have no effect (you'll need more perception to tackle any legendary node collectables, however). Appraisals do have a cap unfortunately. The base for Methodical can't go past 115 and the base of Impulsive can't go past 103.

[XgungraveX]

thxs for rotations

[StouterTaru]

To dumb down Alere's rotation (which is slightly better):

Utmost Caution + Single Mind + Impulsive >

• with proc: Utmost Caution + Single Mind + Methodical > Impulsive > Methodical (3 swings at 12 red scrips, 3 swings at 14 red scrips with proc on 2nd impulsive)
• without proc: Utmost Caution + Impulsive >
  • with proc: Single Mind + Methodical > Methodical (3 swings at 12 red scrips)
  • without proc: Impulsive > Discerning (Single Mind if proc) + Methodical (3 swings at 12 if Impulsive procs, 2 swings at 12 if no procs)

The math:
56.7% chance at 3 swings for 12 scrips
9% chance at 3 swings for 14 scrips
34.3% chance at 2 swings 12 scrips

Slightly better than the standard:
9% chance at 4 swings for 12 scrips
42% chance at 3 swings for 12 scrips
49% chance at 2 swings for 12 scrips

[Alexiell]

To dumb down Alere's rotation (which is slightly better):
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i believe your rotation is different from what AlereRaeder posted. In the correct one you should always use 3 Impulsive Appraisals followed by Methodical Appraisal. Throw in 2x Utmost Caution and 1 Single Mind at any time during the first 3 Appraisals, then, if you had at least 1 Impulsive proc, you can use a second Single Mind otherwise use Discerning Eye for your final Methodical Appraisal.

if none of the impulsives proc you get 2x12 scrips, if 1 procs you get 3x12 scrips, if 2 or 3 proc you get 3x14 scrips. it should be better but again only slightly. maybe you can calculate the chances for this rotation too.