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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinfeld View Post
    Minus the twitter integration isn't that pretty close to what we get every patch? The standard patch contains: a few MSQ quests that you can finish in 4-5 hours (I don't have a problem with this), 1 Primal, 1 raid (Alex or the new CT), 2 dungeons to grind tomes in until your eyes bleed.
    In one patch, yes. The difference is that, if ARR is any indication, we'll be getting 5+ decently sized content patches. The ONLY patches the last WoW expansion got were one adding Twitter integration and a selfie tool, and one adding a raid and a daily hub. That was it, pay Blizzard another $60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Please put some thought into reading the Savagelf's OP before posting. I know it's a bit difficult, but the OP isn't asking a question. He's stating that "the reason we don't have a dev response is because our forums are filled with nothing but trolling and negativity". He's saying that if you're going to say something negative, you should say something positive as well... which is to say, I think he's saying we should be giving constructive criticism... which is absolutely what this forum needs more of.
    Sometimes, there isn't anything positive to say or the positive stuff has nothing to do with the critic. What people need to do is to stop being so oppositional when critiquing and/or suggesting things and to do it in a more friendly manner. :B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyaha View Post
    Then they should have those lines translated and posted here.

    I'm getting sick and tired from the Japanese folks getting favoritism on everything, like the live letters, that's ignoring 70% if not more of the player base by not even providing a translator.
    I'm getting sick and tired of English speaking posters coming over all paranoid and thinking that there is so very much going on in Japanese that they cannot ever know about and then feeling hard done by because of that. You're creating your own hard feelings on baseless assumptions you are making about something.
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    There isn't anything worth responding to, it's mainly complaints threads about people wanting everything, regardless if it makes any sense or not. for a split second i had almost forgotten how these forums work.
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    In the case of the English forums we did have a lot of positive, constructive criticism at the beginning, but communication is supposed to be two way. Without any response from the development team, many of the more affluent posters became increasingly frustrated with Yoshida and Co. In some cases it even felt as though they were adding features that ran counter to the more intelligent forum feedback. If there are design limitations that make addressing some player concerns unfeasible, the players need to know so they don't feel like their concerns are falling on deaf ears.

    We had a thread talking about having multiple tiers of difficulty for raids about a year ago in response to Coil's difficulty, taking cues from World of Warcraft's "Wrath of the Lich King" expansion. The thread was positively gargantuan and overly positive towards the idea. We never received a single forum response from the development team whatsoever. There were similar threads relating to combat improvements and other concerns as well. No developer in sight, and all of us slowly realized we were talking to a brick wall. It's a case of SE saying one thing (that their community of supporters is important to them) and then doing another. They've earned a lot of ire from the Western community as a result of their own gross negligence.
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    Last edited by Fendred; 08-14-2015 at 01:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I'm getting sick and tired of English speaking posters coming over all paranoid and thinking that there is so very much going on in Japanese that they cannot ever know about and then feeling hard done by because of that. You're creating your own hard feelings on baseless assumptions you are making about something.
    exept before we had a report of the intervention of the dev from the japanese forum, when was the last time it was posted? often they post it because player do it before. i'm sorry to say that dev talk on the jap forum and it did become quite impossible to have any of this information bring back to any other forum that a bad thing, the communication with the whole community have become extremely bad over the last years and needed to be adressed. if for you is being paranoid.... what you want i say.

    other point, it don't take them long to send feedback of the most talked subject on the english forum for get a quick answer.... it's not even the case anymore here. a lot of people say that the forum is bad because tons of subject is created, but believe me if the community manager was creating a subject for get a feedback it will be used, here people don't really use the search function and mostly only look the first page and since the english forum is used by the whole community (and not only the english/american people) you have a looooot of feedback there that are lost.

    that don't take long to say: "the feedback was send to the dev. "
    and if the dev have answer this: "here the answer the dev have give us on that matter."

    it was done while the first years of ARR, but now.... is not the case anymore, they really need to work on the communication that have become quite bad, but i repeat myself there.

    ps: people like to know that they was heard and before it reach 100+ page...
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    Last edited by silentwindfr; 08-14-2015 at 01:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyaha View Post
    Then they should have those lines translated and posted here.

    I'm getting sick and tired from the Japanese folks getting favoritism on everything, like the live letters, that's ignoring 70% if not more of the player base by not even providing a translator.
    Live letters are getting translated last time i checked.
    Community managers do post here but they get so drowned out by useless thread after thread they are hidden on god knows what page now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    There isn't anything worth responding to, it's mainly complaints threads about people wanting everything, regardless if it makes any sense or not. for a split second i had almost forgotten how these forums work.
    And how exactly do these forums work? >o>
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  9. #29
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    when i first made my origanal post i check who was respond to the japenese and english have not been respond in 7 days, I felt that since all i seen negative post that are over complain and don't off general good feedback that i was make value point.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assirra View Post
    Live letters are getting translated last time i checked.
    Community managers do post here but they get so drowned out by useless thread after thread they are hidden on god knows what page now.
    don't begin me with the live letter it's a subject that anger me greatly, Square-Enix is a big company that have translator and probably people for do some subs... for a fansub translate and subs a movie of 1-2 hours can take less of 1-2 week.... for SE we don't even have the right to a subs anymore we get a post with the answer translated with a timecaps.

    sorry it's far to be enough! some question wasn't even posted while the live letter, like the one about the ninja question that have mysteriously disappear. no, SE have restart to have a bad communication with the community outside japan and it's quite bad! we deserve more than a post on a forum! the live letter needed to be translate faster than 1 month (if not 2) after the live!! Yoshida when he did get at the direction of FF14 have said that communication needed to be enhanced, the trouble is the communication for the non japanese community is extremely bad. we are not second rate player, we are part of this community and deserve a better treatment!
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