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    SuperZay's Avatar
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    Any reason to launch A4 Savage as an impossible raid?

    Reason why A4S has not been cleared is not because of real dificulty, that is to say some complicated mechanics or such. It is simply an unreachable gear check at the moment so the fight is literaly impossible as of right now. Maybe in a few weeks for world first teams, and in 2-3 months for regular statics. Basically SE tells us gear > skills.
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    or you know,Gear+skill=win,there's a reason people still can't kill t9 even unsynced,mechanics are one part and dps checks are the other,and that's how it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Davester View Post
    or you know,Gear+skill=win,there's a reason people still can't kill t9 even unsynced,mechanics are one part and dps checks are the other,and that's how it should be.
    Exactly this

    gear + skill + teamwork = win

    It’s been two months since the launch of Heavensward, and about one month since we added Alexander: Gordias (Savage). And now it seems there are two companies which have cleared the final area! The first to claim victory was Elysium, on August 24, at 9:08 AM (JST). Only fourteen hours later, the members of Lucrezia also cleared the final area.

    We were concerned about the level of difficulty, especially the third and fourth areas. But these top-notch free companies showed our battle team that they were up to the challenge. In their rush to be first, both FCs demonstrated exceptional teamwork and individual skill, and I would like to congratulate them on their accomplishments. (We saw the Elysium clear video, and when they cried out at the end it was amazing!)
    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    But it still stands savage is not for average players. some servers probably wont be seeing a clear for a very long time.
    It was mentioned since the first infos about Alexander, that Alexader (normal) is for normal players and Alexander (savage) for hardcore players.
    Don't expect hardcore players as the average.
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    Last edited by Felis; 08-27-2015 at 10:39 PM.

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    Didn't a4s get beaten last week?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke_Anderson View Post
    Didn't a4s get beaten last week?
    wherever you hear this info from, it nee to be check, because afaik A4 has not beat by any group yet
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    Oh really? awesome, I kinda like how A4 Savage actually need requires a set gear amount to be passed, I mean isn't that what we gearing up for anyway? Now we've got a good reason to gear up.

    I know you'll have some people say oh gear don't count as long as you got the skills to make up for it, true but even then those skills will only take you as far as your gear allows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin_Arcainess View Post
    Oh really? awesome
    Lmao at this game's apologist community.

    4-5 days maintenance ?
    "I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means we get better servers "

    Two Expert dungeons for the next 3-4 months?
    "I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means we'll get some other conent too "

    The bard ruined by The Wanderer's Minuet?
    "I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means bard's damage will not suck as much as without it "

    The Flare or Holy nerfed?
    "I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means other jobs will have to contribute more "

    The raid is currently impossible and ignores your skill level?
    "I'm happy that Square Enix is doing this if it means there'll be a reason to farm esoterics for a few more weeks/months "
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    ???????
    Wow, someone doesn't feel good today, huh?
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    Sorry unlike wow the content will not be beat in the 1st week?

    When raiding was actually multi tiers of content it was always assumed you would need to gear up in 1 tier b4 moving on to the next.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantetsuken View Post
    Newer players to MMO games will likely draw from their experiences playing FPS games, GTA, Dragon Age, Skyrim, etc.. and they will evaluate a MMO based on that criteria. But other online games (and offline RPGs) are designed to be picked up, played for maybe 5 months and then abandoned for when the next big game comes along. A Veteran MMO gamer knows that the experience of the game is stretched out over years, and if crafted properly, it leaves players with some of the best gaming experiences to be found anywhere.
    Quote Originally Posted by kazeandi View Post
    This is the problem most content is solo and you get your group action from a cross-server queueing tool. This is not like older MMOs where servers developed real communities. It's more like MacDonald's Drive-Thru, where you queue up, do your run, then never meet those people again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Wow, someone doesn't feel good today, huh?
    It's funny how defensive OPs can get when people don't just agree with them. A game isn't all about skill, if it was all content could be done in level one gear and there be no need to gear up.

    Skill can only get you so far, it's the gear that helps you overcome even tougher odds by allowing you to have room for error, to hit harder, to take more hits, to heal stronger etc etc. I feel the people who complain how it's the "need" for gear to beat x content would also be the same people complaining that the game is to easy because you don't have to get x gear to beat it.
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