Ninja bad or ok?

[Sleigh]

Lets be real here they're far from perfect but yes they're wanted becasue of trick attack. None of the fights are that punishing at least A1-A3 that ninja outshines either of the other melee's its all about trick attack

Probably should have phrased it better. They're perfectly balanced for raiding (maybe TP change here or there). QoL, with how bad they are in dungeons/AoE, and Mudra lag, sure they could use some band-aids or changes no doubt.

[Starkbeaumont]

from what i got NINs seem to be starving for tp faster than the other DD jobs. especially with a nin in pt one person is fortunate to get goad. the original balance nerf to tp cost now seems to backfire. mudra should be a little less of issue now though, cause futon is mostly a pre fight buff and can be kept up in a another way

[Fated]

Everything is "okay." Asking that question is pointless. If you're a raider then you're looking for the best DPS job of which Ninja is one of them currently due to their supportive skills. If you're not a raider, then it doesn't matter because everything outside of raiding is made completely trivial with ilvl 180+.

[Ketsuyame]

Everything is "okay." Asking that question is pointless. If you're a raider then you're looking for the best DPS job of which Ninja is one of them currently due to their supportive skills. If you're not a raider, then it doesn't matter because everything outside of raiding is made completely trivial with ilvl 180+.

Ding, hit the nail on the head. I couldn't have said it better myself. Most of the player base are not raiders in any way. So it matters little..

And to the OP.. Please don't call the characters "toons".. Ugh! I shudder when I hear that term. Leave that lingo in WoW. The characters look warrant that name.

[Aeliott]

Nothing sucks. Ninjas are the tiniest bit behind on MNK/DRG in terms of overall damage, but as has been said they buff ALL outgoing damage by 10% periodically anyway.

[Zari]

If anyone says ninja is currently bad (which it is actually far from being) they are just one of those dps that get mad if their class isn't top dps

[Trixxy]

NIN's are at a great spot right now. Idk why anyone would think otherwise.

[Eecka]

And to the OP.. Please don't call the characters "toons".. Ugh! I shudder when I hear that term. Leave that lingo in WoW. The characters look warrant that name.

I dislike the term toon as well, but something I dislike even more is assuming everything MMO-related came from WoW Toon is an older term than WoW. And tbh, this game is very cartoony as well, it's not super unwarranted there either :P

[Geardagas]

NIN's are at a great spot right now. Idk why anyone would think otherwise.

Because if you're like me, the lag makes it almost unplayable. There is nothing more clunky and lame than having to use almost 3 seconds every time I want to use a jutsu.

And to the OP.. Please don't call the characters "toons".. Ugh! I shudder when I hear that term. Leave that lingo in WoW. The characters look warrant that name.

OMG thank you. I have always hated that term so much. It just cheapens my character.

[Sacerdos]

Ninja is really good in the meta right now. Both of the top progression groups are running one.