Astrologian Hate!?

[Anyendryyl]

Agreed, there's LITERALLY no AST skill that is overpowered. They are all either decent (Benefic, Benefic II, Helios), or need a rework (Collective, Celestial, Aspected Helios).

CU is great, and celestial is by far my favorite move ever. Stuns adds, interrupts, and increases the duration of all beneficial effect on the party by 5 seconds.

Thats 5 seconds longer on my extended ewer, 5 seconds longer on that aoe balance etc. I love it. So I don't get how you would "rework it"

[NorthernLadMSP]

CU is great, and celestial is by far my favorite move ever. Stuns adds, interrupts, and increases the duration of all beneficial effect on the party by 5 seconds.

Thats 5 seconds longer on my extended ewer, 5 seconds longer on that aoe balance etc. I love it. So I don't get how you would "rework it"

Sorry, but a 4 second stun (on trash only, btw) and an extra 5 seconds on buffs is way underpowered for what is supposed to be their ultimate level 60 spell. Not to mention, how long the cool down is for this spell.

[DarkmoonVael]

CU is great, and celestial is by far my favorite move ever. Stuns adds, interrupts, and increases the duration of all beneficial effect on the party by 5 seconds.

Thats 5 seconds longer on my extended ewer, 5 seconds longer on that aoe balance etc. I love it. So I don't get how you would "rework it"

Except in a raid celestial opposition does non of what you just said and only extends buffs by 5 secs. Its a very underwheliming lvl 60 ability. Also it has 2 functions that are not necessarily going to be used in conjunction. If you stun something, it has to be stunned there and then irrespective of wether you need to extend a buff soon.

AST is a nice class and need help for it to compete with WHM and SCH.

And to be honest, this thread is doing it no favours.

[Cynfael]

CU is great, and celestial is by far my favorite move ever. Stuns adds, interrupts, and increases the duration of all beneficial effect on the party by 5 seconds.

Thats 5 seconds longer on my extended ewer, 5 seconds longer on that aoe balance etc. I love it. So I don't get how you would "rework it"

They're both pretty awful. Look good on paper, provide little practical benefit.

As others have said, this is another reason why it's important to examine what AST provides in context of what the other healers provide.

I would trade CO out for Assize in an instant. Or Tetragrammaton for that matter, if we want to compare capstones.

CU I would trade for a Klondike Bar...but I would settle for Asylum, which is far more useful, despite its lower potency, and far less situational.

[Vlady]

CU is very bad. long cooldown for a stun and 5 second extension on a buff which its best use is with self refresh ability.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I would also trade Celestial Opp for Assize in an instant - and what's even more sad is the fact Assize is a WHM's level 56 ability vs. the far inferior Celestial Opp at 60.

[chumsy]

I would also trade Celestial Opp for Assize in an instant - and what's even more sad is the fact Assize is a WHM's level 56 ability vs. the far inferior Celestial Opp at 60.

WTF and give WHM 2 aoe stun abilities? nah bro, you tripping unless you wanna trade holy and gravity

The RNG is thematic with the job, though. If tarot readers picked the cards themselves, it wouldn't be much of a fortune, would it?

"Well well well...would you look at that, you got 'the devil' 13 times in a row. Sucks to be you now, doesn't it."

Fun to troll your friends, but not for a mmo class. I hope they come up with something more creative to fix the rng problem than just removing the rng.

lmao i think its funny that the cards rotate around our weapon but we cant pick it manually. On that note, give us a gambler class aka "setzer" roll dice and slot machine for dps LoL

[NorthernLadMSP]

WTF and give WHM 2 aoe stun abilities? nah bro, you tripping unless you wanna trade holy and gravity

It was a figure of speech - meaning I would gladly take Assize over Celestial any day because Assize is about 400 times more useful.

[chumsy]

It was a figure of speech - meaning I would gladly take Assize over Celestial any day because Assize is about 400 times more useful.

oh, i see what you mean. true, unless CO can stun bosses, its pretty shitty. 5 secs is nothing, and to make the most of it you'd have to have extended royal road.