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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Skill/Spell Speed and DoTs

    Was curious about how much more damage my Ninja DoTs would do with a lot of skill speed so I did a test.

    Set 1: Skill Speed: 781 | Det: 427 | Crit: 517 | Dex: 850 (i190 boots are the only ones with skill speed that I have)
    Set 2: Skill Speed: 540 | Det: 475 | Crit: 613 | Dex: 845

    Mutilate w/ Set 1 (skill speed set) = 1480 total damage
    Mutilate w/ Set 2 (mixed gear set) = 1457 total damage

    Anyone else want to test this out to make sure I'm not crazy? I was expecting a bigger jump with 241 more skill speed lol.
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    skill speed = garbage

    we all know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner_iBluAirJGR View Post
    I was expecting a bigger jump with 241 more skill speed lol.
    Same here considering SE made a big deal about how they had made the stat worthwhile by doing this.
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    That does sound silly compared to all the hype that was expected. How were your other stats affected?
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    I will tell you right now! Ill edit the main post too

    Skill Speed: 781 | Det: 427 | Crit: 517 | Dex: 850 (i190 boots are the only ones with skill speed that I have)
    Skill Speed: 540 | Det: 475 | Crit: 613 | Dex: 845
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Same here considering SE made a big deal about how they had made the stat worthwhile by doing this.
    It has been made worthwhile but only for DoT-heavy jobs (DoTs make up for >70% of the job's damage). If it was any stronger, Det would become useless. SE balanced it so that skill/spell speed has a greater effect than Det on DoTs, but only just enough to make it more worthwhile for specific jobs. Burst-heavy jobs are still going to want to focus on Crit and Det.
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    100 more crit + 50 more determination on the second one, compared to the 240 spell speed. The value/rng of crit could be making it less extreme. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    The value/rng of crit could be making it less extreme. xD
    Rofl yeah that could be the deal. I might test it again to see if its crit hitting a lot more later today lol.
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    Problem with this stat is the way they scaled it, diminishing returns. Once you hit certain soft caps, you need more speed points to get to the next soft cap( visible results) than you needed to hit the pdevious soft cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    It has been made worthwhile but only for DoT-heavy jobs (DoTs make up for >70% of the job's damage). If it was any stronger, Det would become useless. SE balanced it so that skill/spell speed has a greater effect than Det on DoTs, but only just enough to make it more worthwhile for specific jobs. Burst-heavy jobs are still going to want to focus on Crit and Det.
    So you're saying, despite it making no difference for 1 dot (the faster speed test also had 5 higher prime stat lol), that a job with multiple dots would actually come out ahead? OK then.

    1 dot x 0 boost = 0 difference.
    4x0 = ???
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