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    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    You can't just use a trickle down policy? Even if you play multiple classes, why do they all need to be in the best gear immediately?
    This has been my policy going in Heavensward.
    WAR - i188 = ESO gear onry.
    BRD/MCH - i181 = Law gear onry (Alex drops go here when the WAR doesn't require that slot, like belt/chest for example)

    And when i finally get my Monk to cap, it will be using Law Gear also ... With Alex gear trickling in from unrequired slots on the other Jobs.

    Its a real shame people cant get their heads around the concept of 1 Main Job with Supplemental Jobs. most likely because they're used to other titles where being a different class meant logging in on a whole new character.
    And even then, speaking as someone who had 17 level capped characters during Wrath of the Lich King, Gearing them all up to the current best was a freaking nightmare. At best, i had 1 class that had amazing gear, 2 classes that were in good gear and then all the others were still in quest gear because there isn't enough time in a week to cap all the currencies and do all the raids ...
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    Its a real shame people cant get their heads around the concept of 1 Main Job with Supplemental Jobs. most likely because they're used to other titles where being a different class meant logging in on a whole new character.
    And even then, speaking as someone who had 17 level capped characters during Wrath of the Lich King, Gearing them all up to the current best was a freaking nightmare. At best, i had 1 class that had amazing gear, 2 classes that were in good gear and then all the others were still in quest gear because there isn't enough time in a week to cap all the currencies and do all the raids ...
    This is exactly how I play and works pretty well. One job gets eso tome gear, the others get law/alex gear. Even the ones that get law/alex gear are still equipped well enough to do all the content anyways.
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    Tyla Esmeraude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Its a real shame people cant get their heads around the concept of 1 Main Job with Supplemental Jobs. most likely because they're used to other titles where being a different class meant logging in on a whole new character.
    Uh huh, except the problem is clear with Astrologian for example. People in raid statics who wanted to main Astrologian can't because they realize their other healer job is more reliable were forced to gear up the other healer job they don't want to.I had to spend eso on my WHM when I wanted to gear AST. It was either that or leave the static.Now when AST gets fixed all those eso tomes will have gone to waste and I will have to regear my AST from zero.The only thing that keeps me sane is that the healing gear I'm *slowly* getting from Savage is gearing my AST as well, but the eso I spent on WHM is already gone with no way to bring it back, that could've gone to my AST already so I could use remaining eso on my other 2 jobs that I love to play too even if they are my "secondaries". Just because I can't gear them up at the same rate doesn't mean I like them less than my "main".

    Sometimes people can't make it for raids and god it would be so much help to be able to have more flexibility and switch from my healer to DPS because it's happened many times before, where pickup DPS are not reliable 100% of the time but we have healers who could take my spot instead, reliably. Except I can't switch because my DPS jobs are not geared up enough for the raid, which is frustrating.

    The "people need a cap or they would get bored and unsub" is no offense, a completely stupid argument like others have said before. Want to make clear that I am not talking about uncapping per character, but per job. The cap is "okay" but making it per character is kind of painful. Making it per job would alievate. If the gating is the only reason that keeps people from unsubbing then there is an obvious problem with the game itself. Gating progress on both 2 end game armor (savage and eso, and to an extent, I guess, normal mode alex) is in my opinion completely unfair to the people that want to play more than 2 hours a day and progress on their own pace. I would understand if there was more endgame content we could play and even if that was gated at least we'd have more ways to gear up slots, but right now we don't have many options and the only 2 options we have are gated. There needs to be a balance for both sides of the spectrum.
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    Last edited by Tyla_Esmeraude; 08-13-2015 at 07:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyla_Esmeraude View Post
    I had to spend eso on my WHM when I wanted to gear AST. It was either that or leave the static.
    Perhaps you should find a new static then, plenty of AST been progressing through savage. Point of game is to have fun, not to do what you're told.
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    Get a life or a job. Rude remark aside, the idea is bad as it's not about multiple chars, it's one char which has multiple classes which mean one instance of session. Honestly , I don't see any point in them allowing this. Ok, you can farm for all your classes and after that what? Wait for the next expansion right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarel View Post
    Get a life or a job. Rude remark aside, the idea is bad as it's not about multiple chars, it's one char which has multiple classes which mean one instance of session. Honestly , I don't see any point in them allowing this. Ok, you can farm for all your classes and after that what? Wait for the next expansion right?
    brilliant, pretty much sums up the attitude of people, get a life...really

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    If there will be another open caps for every job, it will force me to do all of them. I am allready doing ESO + red scripts caps ( you can do redscripts if you are bored) and I dont wanna another caps which I have to do every week. So please no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunnaRavenheart View Post
    If there will be another open caps for every job, it will force me to do all of them. I am allready doing ESO + red scripts caps ( you can do redscripts if you are bored) and I dont wanna another caps which I have to do every week. So please no.
    i don't understand why people feel this way, you aren't being forced to do anything, just play at your own pace
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    Quote Originally Posted by AckersFury View Post
    i don't understand why people feel this way, you aren't being forced to do anything, just play at your own pace
    If you want to do 'best' in your job you'd have to.
    You will be always 'worse' (regarding gear) than someone with much more time, something the actual system prevents.
    This can affect your raiding... statics may decide (for good reason like versatility) to only get players which have lot more classes geared, if you tell them that you can't do the effort to gear specific classes, too. Every paladin would be asked to gear DRK or WAR as well. And they might be replaced when they don't have the time for this.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 08-12-2015 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    If you want to do 'best' in your job you'd have to.
    You will be always 'worse' (regarding gear) than someone with much more time, something the actual system prevents.
    This can affect your raiding... statics may decide (for good reason like versatility) to only get players which have lot more classes geared, if you tell them that you can't do the effort to gear specific classes, too. Every paladin would be asked to gear DRK as well. And they might be replaced when they don't have the time for this.
    Sounds more like a matter of playstyle then rather than something that needs to be regulated by SE. Gods forbid someone has more playtime and more desire to max everything than you do. Why don't we just make all jobs carbon copies of one another then so we can do away with exclusion based on individual job progression all together?
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