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    To me there could only be benefits to doing this. Total agreement with the OP. The way I see it, how does this cause any fairness issues? Who cares if people were to keep all the jobs capped out in ESO every week? How does that even effect you? All because most folks do not have the time to do so how does it even effect them at all? If anything there are benefits to this for everyone.

    1. Nearly everyone I know that play multiple/all jobs (including myself) que up into duty finder as either healer or tank. Instead of doing this once per day I personally would be doing this multiple times. Guess what.... That helps on the longer DPS ques. So at the very least that's an extra tank to que and healer as I play them all.

    2. Say said person against this put up a party finder for RAVex or anything for that matter. Guess what it very well could be populated faster as folks like myself and many others may have the job that is still open at the correct ilvl that it was posted.

    The only downside I could see is the people that don't have the time to cap more then one. Sorry but that is selfish. Since this is a PvE issue there is no balance issue and it doesn't even effect you. Shrug, but I guess we all have to be special snowflakes. Amirite?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoJenova View Post
    The only downside I could see is the people that don't have the time to cap more then one. Sorry but that is selfish. Since this is a PvE issue there is no balance issue and it doesn't even effect you. Shrug, but I guess we all have to be special snowflakes. Amirite?
    People usually think of the overall balance of the game, not just themselves like the people requesting more items per week. The use of the word selfish is being used ironically here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    People usually think of the overall balance of the game, not just themselves like the people requesting more items per week. The use of the word selfish is being used ironically here.
    How does it even effect the overall balance though? You can't gear one specific job any faster. If it's the accessory issue, come on really? The only balance issue is what exactly? People will down content at the same rate but have the option to switch it up. The only people it could possibly help is world first attempts. And really who cares? Why is it a bad thing to allow this? I personally average 2-3 hours a night. This is after work, kids soccer etc, dinner, wife time.

    6 days a week of 30 minutes a day and your capped. Yes there's a lot more to do. But why block people that like to gear up other jobs with the current tomes. It does not speed up progression and if anything it will keep us so called no lifers busy and happy while populating the dungeons more instead of logging off and/or unsuscribing due to being bored. It does not hurt a single person and or SE bottom line. Hurt feelings is the only possible negative to this..... But really? If I missed something that could drastically alter game balance please forgive me as I don't see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoJenova View Post
    How does it even effect the overall balance though? You can't gear one specific job any faster. If it's the accessory issue, come on really? The only balance issue is what exactly? People will down content at the same rate but have the option to switch it up. The only people it could possibly help is world first attempts. And really who cares? Why is it a bad thing to allow this? I personally average 2-3 hours a night. This is after work, kids soccer etc, dinner, wife time.

    6 days a week of 30 minutes a day and your capped. Yes there's a lot more to do. But why block people that like to gear up other jobs with the current tomes.
    You severely underestimate how much ahead a class can get if tomes were capped class-by-class, but accessories and belts were still uni-class
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    You severely underestimate how much ahead a class can get if tomes were capped class-by-class, but accessories and belts were still uni-class
    Now I understand this argument I suppose but in all reality what does it do to the balance of the game exactly. The top raiding guilds can down the hardest content a week earlier? Other then that, who cares! Do you care so much that Bobbie Jo is capped on 5 jobs where you were only able to do 1? Serious question. How in any way does this effect you negatively? It's PvE tomes...... Not PvP..... I don't understand why anyone would have this bother them unless it's a jealousy thing. OMG Bethany capped all her jobs when I could only do two.... Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KoJenova View Post
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    Do you think they are going to make AF sets every time? No, you have to take sets for multiple jobs into consideration. I gear a PLD for the week. I buy items with it. I get on WAR next and get more gear in the same category. I then switch to DRK and get gear from that. I can get three weeks worth of gear in one for one job.

    To make things work, you would have to drastically alter how the Armory System and it's token system works. Its something that if done slightly wrong can create extreme disadvantages depending on the job you play.

    That is just one thing out of many to take into consideration. People only look at the general idea of it and think it is great with no flaws without actually researching and thinking of what the negatives are when this happens. It isn't simply because people get ahead of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velhart View Post
    Do you think they are going to make AF sets every time?.
    Thank you. I did not see this issue. And if this was an argument previously in this thread then I overlooked it. That is saying that they do not add in JSE every gear patch (which I'm sure won't happen). There just needs to be a way (to me) to atleast gear up a couple of jobs at a time.

    I only chimed in to this thread for the "unfair" posts.... Really that is just the world we live in now I guess.

    Regardless this argument against definitely holds water (a whole glass lol) as to why the devs wouldn't want class specific caps. Just wish I could at least gear up a tank healer and somehow a dps at a time.

    Edit: with that said I still agree with the OP and some others here. SE really Ned's to come up with something other then lowering tome drop rates to keep this game fresh from patch to patch. I would run so many 60 dungeons every week if I could gear up multiple jobs with the current tome. The whole be anything u want in this game is a semi-sham lol. Yes you can but you can't put the effort in to be the best at everything.
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    If you want to save some eso tomes and have some gil to spend you can get the 150 slaying acc and meld them with vit and focus on buying left side pieces.
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    Let's not make this too easy now. Compare this to FF11, ABSOLUTE VIRTUE?? If they made everything the way you want then you will blame them for being bored so fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolaceX View Post
    Let's not make this too easy now. Compare this to FF11, ABSOLUTE VIRTUE?? If they made everything the way you want then you will blame them for being bored so fast.
    ^^ I absolutely agree. They reason why they put the restriction has multiple good reason. One of them is the game balance. Have you already forgotten the game server was almost dead 1-2 month before Heavensward 3.0. I can barely see 1-2 group on PF one of the most busy server. Poetic limit was set to 900 and sol tome was unlimited and everyone had iLv130 gear. I think people are used to play console game that you have to see the end of it asap and move on to other game. But this is MMO. They need something to make people coming back online to stay alive...
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