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    Culfinrandir's Avatar
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    Culfinrandir Caladel
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    Leviathan
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    Fisher Lv 70
    They went the right way with having crafters make fun/glamour/non-essential gear like minions and furniture. However, they then limited the market extensively by having overpriced and underavailable housing.

    Many of the things that should keep crafters and gatherers busy throughout patches has been greatly affected by things like this. I had hoped Airships would require teams if crafters all making things to put together in the home but it takes one person to click a button whilst three people stand and watch. Also, they limited it to FCs. Imagine if all households could become airship manufacturers & make, repair & upgrade personal airships for everyone?

    So much potential, so little enthusiasm.
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    Kestrel Fairmeadow
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    Faerie
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    I don't really think lack of making endgame gear is the problem. Rather, it's the massive amount of time and effort involved to earn a pitiful non-reward. They could give us more valuable items to make or they could stop pushing crafting into this ridiculously hardcore direction. Either one would work.
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    One thing that Yoshi et al forget is that elite raiding isn't the end game for the majority of players. Their own data shows that less than 300 people are on A4S & struggling with current topped gear.

    Why can't crafters make gear that is BiS, or near BiS for PVP? Why not introduce saddles or other items for Chocobo Racing? There's so much more to FFXIV than Elite Raiding but everything tome wise is geared towards it which leaves a huge gap of nothing for crafters & gatherers alike.

    I'll probably never set foot in Alex Savage so that's not *my* endgame. They need to remember that.
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    Ksenia Solo
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Culfinrandir View Post
    Their own data shows that less than 300 people are on A4S & struggling with current topped gear.
    This and
    Quote Originally Posted by seorin View Post
    crafting into this ridiculously hardcore direction
    This

    They seem determined to make everything about elitism and e-sport. Yet the community keep saying they don't want to devote all their game time to waving their digital penis around in adolescent sword fights.
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    Last edited by Ksenia; 08-23-2015 at 07:40 PM.

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    Airget Lamh
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 100
    That's the issue, the end of the road for crafting just doesn't have recipes you look and go "SWEET I CAN"T WAIT TO MAKE THOSE" it's more like, meh. Carpenter especially, lookie at what I can do if I got the red scrip gear.

    4 crafts for crafters, 3 accesories and 1 weaver secondary tool
    1 Lumber used in 18 recipes
    4 furniture

    So for my efforts of gearing up Carpenter the above is all there is to look forward to, gear that improves crafting, and then I use it for Gear I can't even HQ lol.

    It would be more fun if they actually had more recipes that one could actually look forward to but when the only non-craft used gear are 4 pieces of furniture there is just not much desire to care about reaching the top since there is nothing to look forward to.
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    Sibyll Belmont
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    Mateus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    That's the issue, the end of the road for crafting just doesn't have recipes you look and go "SWEET I CAN"T WAIT TO MAKE THOSE" it's more like, meh. Carpenter especially, lookie at what I can do if I got the red scrip gear.

    4 crafts for crafters, 3 accesories and 1 weaver secondary tool
    1 Lumber used in 18 recipes
    4 furniture

    So for my efforts of gearing up Carpenter the above is all there is to look forward to, gear that improves crafting, and then I use it for Gear I can't even HQ lol.

    It would be more fun if they actually had more recipes that one could actually look forward to but when the only non-craft used gear are 4 pieces of furniture there is just not much desire to care about reaching the top since there is nothing to look forward to.
    Alchemist is a good laugh.

    5 Dissolvents used for DoW/DoM gear no one will ever craft.
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sibyll View Post
    Alchemist is a good laugh.

    5 Dissolvents used for DoW/DoM gear no one will ever craft.
    I try not to think about it. I've been an Alchemist since years ago in FFXI and it's my chosen craft in any other MMO if it's available. Granted, it's been in a sad state for awhile--the last time I felt like I was really getting mileage out of it was back when Terminus Putty was rather important. I still use it daily for AF Augmentations, but those aren't exactly engaging to craft (especially at 60).
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    This game has built the most beautiful crafting and gathering system I have seen in any MMO, but has done nothing worthwhile with it. They sandboxed it away from raids as much as possible. You'd think they would have pulled more from the predecessor FFXI and would have integrated crafting more with end game gear.

    Welp atleast my Au'ra looks good in the 2 Star crafter gear I guess. Crafting is just one big Glamour chase now lol..
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    Welp atleast my Au'ra looks good in the 2 Star crafter gear I guess. Crafting is just one big Glamour chase now lol..
    Sadly I prefer the level 50 AF for 2 out of 3 of my crafter mains, so I don't even have that to look forward to by and large. ;;
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