Punishing divas who jump ship before a dungeon even begins.

[Amberyl]

This attitude is exactly the problem with MMOs and the world in general today.

You could be hit by a bus tomorrow. Do you really want to waste another hour of your life waiting for newcomers to learn the mechanics in Aurum Vale?

Vertical progression is the problem, not the player base's response to it. Forcing long term subscribers to repeat content they hate, purely to keep lower level content viable for new players, is the issue.

[CarnivalNights]

You could be hit by a bus tomorrow. Do you really want to waste another hour of your life waiting for newcomers to learn the mechanics in Aurum Vale?

Vertical progression is the problem, not the player base's response to it. Forcing long term subscribers to repeat content they hate, purely to keep lower level content viable for new players, is the issue.

Complete agreement with this.

It's not part of my curriculum to teach random new players how to play the game. Don't force this on me SE. I'm tired of it.

[Sylve]

You could be hit by a bus tomorrow. Do you really want to waste another hour of your life waiting for newcomers to learn the mechanics in Aurum Vale?

Vertical progression is the problem, not the player base's response to it. Forcing long term subscribers to repeat content they hate, purely to keep lower level content viable for new players, is the issue.

Well then, maybe you shouldn't use the feature that will randomly give you something you hate doing.
I enjoy DD, I also enjoy AV. Funnily enough, I like them as both tank and healer.

I always laugh at people who would rather eat a 30 minute lockout than complete a dungeon that takes 30~ minutes to complete at worst. Even with new people.

Complete agreement with this.

It's not part of my curriculum to teach random new players how to play the game. Don't force this on me SE. I'm tired of it.

Willing to bet you're also the sort of person who rages at new people for messing up a mechanic they haven't seen before.

You're playing an MMO. What the hell is wrong with helping new people? Or ANY people for that matter?
Why is it that so many of you simply refuse to give any sort of assistance to other players?

[AdamFyi]

The Vault has a similar situation with people either jumping ship, or just AFK until you decide to kick them. Went through The Vault with Titan-egi tanking all the way. The party ended up deciding to kick the tank so as to prevent him from leeching the tome reward at the end. He was actively there since we saw his character move ever so slightly to prevent the auto-kick. Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Freyar]

If you want your tomestones and XP and whatever other goodies roulette gives you, don't leave.

Perhaps they should start removing the daily/reward buffs from roulette when you quit early.

[Miste]

Clearly they have the time for the dungeon or trial because they hopped in the queue for it. I don't think it's being entitled to want people to actually do the content, especially when quits / forced disconnects often lead to a total group disband. Rather, I think it's entitled to think your time is worth more than 3-7 other people's time, and that's before you get into the matter of it not even being an issue of not having time but rather the person just didn't like the selection in a roulette that's very transparent about what content it contains.

Nah, he is clearly mad without knowing why people leave. Since I highly doubt he tracked each person down and asked why they left.

He just assumes they leave cause they don't like the roulette selection, yet there are other reasons why people may leave.

It's the assumption of "This is how my life is, so everyone's must be the same" mentality. Just because they came in with what they thought was enough time to play doesn't mean they calculated right. IRL can pop up whenever it wants in some peoples lives. Wife/Husband/Kids/Family priorities don't just stop when you are logged into a game.

Some people leave cause they don't want to do that particular dungeon, yeah, but not all cases are the same. Also try getting the same dungeon 5 days in a row from roulette that has like tons of dungeons to choose from. Yeah when I got the same dungeon on the 5th day I left. You can blame the RNG there not the player. Again, everyone has their own reasons for leaving and each have a right to do so.

So even if that person leaves one dungeon they hate out of 20+ they don't hate at least when they re-queue they will help others in another dungeon they don't abhor. Forcing people to do a dungeon they hate just cause RNG gives it to them is entitlement.

[Adventica6]

These 2 dungeons take alot longer than other dungeons, and if they just want a roulette or something, having a 30min leaver penalty is actually faster than doing those dungeons,,, I would say the people that are auto leaving are actually pretty smart from an efficiency point of view.

[Freyar]

So even if that person leaves one dungeon out of 20+ they hate. At least when they re-queue they will help others in another dungeon they don't abhor. Forcing people to do a dungeon they hate just cause RNG gives it to them is entitlement.

It's not like they hide what dungeons are part of which roulette. It's unfair to those people who queued and waited 40-90 minutes to get in only to leave and require everyone else to requeue too.

[Mandze]

Even worse are the tanks I keep running into who fake DC when they get a dungeon they dislike. They remain in the party even though they have gone offline, which means that the remaining players can't leave or they will take the penalty, and cannot even vote-kick the person since the dungeon just started. THAT trend needs to stop-- I've seen it happen at least three times this week, and it is horribly obnoxious and inconsiderate to the other players in the party. Seriously, if you're going to be a dick, at least have the courage to leave rather than pretend you disconnected.

[AdamFyi]

Even worse are the tanks I keep running into who fake DC when they get a dungeon they dislike.

Similar predicament. I learned that Potato-egi is sufficient enough as a replacement tank. I can only imagine the look on their faces when they log back in only to find out that they weren't kicked from the party.. yet. c: