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    Brayflox Alltalks, Quickthinks Allthoughts, Cheese, and Alexander

    You know, we don't really know much about the naming conventions of goblins, do we? We have the basics: names ending in -ix signifies a male goblin, a name ending in -ox is a female goblin. But what do we know about their last names?

    Taking a look at Mutamix Bubblypots, what do we know about him immediately from his name? Well, he's a male goblin, if we can infer that goblin last names deal with their professions, then Muta mixs bubbly pots...of materia, or something.

    Likewise, Stikflix Grumblytoss, the boss of a level 25 Guildhest, throws bombs at you during his boss encounter. Based on his last name, Stik flix and tosses bombs at you with a very grumbly demeanor...or something along those lines.

    So where does that leave us with Brayflox Alltalks and Quickthinx Allthoughts? Lets get back to the first significant mention of the Illumenati: Brayflox's Longstop (Hard). The Illuminati have assaulted the Longstop in an effect to recover a cheese recipe that the Illuminati have been working on for centuries. Brayflox has stolen this cheese recipe, but for what reason?

    The next mention of Brayflox and her battle with the Illuminati is during a Main Scenario Quest in the Dravanian Hinterlands, where Brayflox is attacked by the forces of the Illuminati - they clearly are not on good terms. You rescue Brayflox from the depths of danger once again (with the aid of Y'sthola), and all seems well.

    That is, until Brayflox is seen entering Gordias shortly before you enter The Arm of the Father. Why, you may wonder? I believe Brayflox Alltalks is the daughter of Quickthinx Allthoughts, and this long-standing battle of Brayflox against the Illuminati is a daughter rebelling against her father.

    The Illuminati have a simple goal: They want to control all the information in the world. Quickthinx wants to have All the thoughts. No tome, no machine, nothing should be beyond the reach of the greatest goblin scholars in the world. Brayflox, however, believes knowledge should be shared. Why did she steal the cheese recipe? I don't recall, but I believe it's because she wants to share the cheese, the product of the knowledge of the cheese recipe, with everyone. This leads me to believe that Brayflox enters Gordias not as a spy reporting to the Illuminati, but as a goblin who wants to bring down her father and has personal beef with him.

    What do you think?
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    I always figured Brayflox Alltalks meant that she brayed a lot of commands, threats, and claims, but she was All talk and would bail as soon as things got rough. That said, I think it'd make for a cute story if the names implied connection beyond Brayflox just up and deciding cheese is birthright of all gobbies over all cheese are belong to Illuminati.
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    hmm, to me with the information on the Illuminati we have revealing they want to not only gather all the world's knowledge, but also keep it for themselves and themselves alone.

    Thus Quickthinx Allthoughts name. He thinks on his feet as leader of the illuminati and may be the soul keeper of their knowledge.

    And while I'm not sold on the Daughter Idea, Bryflox having the name "Alltalks" says to me that she has more than once taken knowledge the illuminati are keeping and shared it with out their consent. Thus "Alltalks" meaning "one who talks too much" rather than "one who is all talk".

    As for Mutamix, he seems to have a Nicholas Flamel vibe going on since he not only is the one that teaches how to make and meld Materia, he also is implied to have invented both methods. Possibly not even sharing this with the illuminati since he's clearly not with them (He's specifically called Ex-Illuminati iirc) but at the same time they aren't hunting him. Suggesting to me they think he's no longer alive.

    (Nicholas Flamel's Philosopher's Stone was also called "The Prima Materia" in some weightings as well.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallistra View Post
    This leads me to believe that Brayflox enters Gordias not as a spy reporting to the Illuminati, but as a goblin who wants to bring down her father and has personal beef with him.

    What do you think?
    As I posted in your Reddit thread, that wasn't Brayflox. It was a spy pretending to be Brayflox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    As I posted in your Reddit thread, that wasn't Brayflox. It was a spy pretending to be Brayflox.
    Pretty sure it's not racist to say all goblins look alike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    Pretty sure it's not racist to say all goblins look alike.
    It's not, and indeed, the game actually pokes fun at that and at how easily the NPCs were duped into thinking it was Brayflox.

    But yeah, to elaborate on my earlier post, the quest journal makes it clear that the spy was killed, while Brayflox continues to stand outside her longstop at the moment.
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    From the journal "wedge receives word that brayflox has been seen entering the colossus [...] quickthinks all thoughts and his guards gun her down"

    The game itself implies it brayflox, not just someone who thinks is looking like brayflox
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    From the journal "wedge receives word that brayflox has been seen entering the colossus [...] quickthinks all thoughts and his guards gun her down"

    The game itself implies it brayflox, not just someone who thinks is looking like brayflox
    This game is very clever at misleading by use of character perspective. "Wedge receives word" means that the characters are led to believe something, not that it is necessarily true. The later events during the cutscenes in Gordias make it explicitly clear that the spy was merely disguised as Brayflox. Brayflox herself was not the spy. I'm fairly sure if Brayflox had died there would have been a little more drama surrounding her death...

    The possibility of Brayflox being a rebellious daughter is interesting though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    From the journal "wedge receives word that brayflox has been seen entering the colossus [...] quickthinks all thoughts and his guards gun her down"

    The game itself implies it brayflox, not just someone who thinks is looking like brayflox
    Gee, what's that first ellipsis for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tinker, Seeker, Soldier, Spy
    Scant moments later, Wedge receives word that Brayflox has been seen entering the colossus. You can only conclude that she is not who she seems. Join Cid and Mide in pursuing the impostor into the giant.

    *The Arm of the Father can now be accessed via the Duty Finder.

    You have pursued the spy through Gordias. Now follow her to the next area.

    Before you can apprehend the spy, Quickthinx Allthoughts and his guards emerge from a nearby corridor and gun her down.
    It's amazing how quoting the full thing makes it clear that it's an impostor and not Brayflox.
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    On the topic of naming conventions, I think it might be something akin to given titles. Kind of like every goblin has a forename given at birth but maybe also a surname given by others. Might also be different depending on the goblin.

    Brayflox might be Brayflox Alltalks to some, but maybe to her parents she's Brayflox Tricksytalks for all the lies she told as a child, or maybe Brayflox Dustytalks because of that one time she got dirt in her mask and it made her sound all squeaky.

    Would also explain why they have surnames based on what they do, considering other goblins would be the ones naming them. Mutamix Bubblypots might be Mutamix Eyeembiggener to some or Mutamix Atmamakes to Jalzahn. Same name, slightly differing title based on the observer.

    *shrug?*
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