How are WARs doing 1k+ DPS?

[Flipside101]

I'm talking about sustained DPS. I'm i190 w/ eso weapon and I'm topping 850-900 on dummies. I'm still doing 3 Fell Cleaves per Berserk, and always have Fracture on. Is there something I'm missing? My SS is only 528 though...

[FallenHero]

blow all your offensive cd's and str pot in your 3 fell cleave window, and alternate between storms eye combo and butchers block combo. Im i190 (all slaying accs and bonus 35pts in str) and do around 1050-1100 sustained. Use your berserk carefully, dont waste it on 2 fell cleaves if you can get a 3 fell cleave window shortly. If I had a healer dispelling my pacification every time the dps would be even higher.

[Tyrial]

blow all your offensive cd's and str pot in your 3 fell cleave window, and alternate between storms eye combo and butchers block combo. Im i190 (all slaying accs and bonus 35pts in str) and do around 1050-1100 sustained. Use your berserk carefully, dont waste it on 2 fell cleaves if you can get a 3 fell cleave window shortly. If I had a healer dispelling my pacification every time the dps would be even higher.

I'm able to sustain this MTing Faust in A1S without doing any triple fell cleave nonsense. Don't see the point in dumping all my CDs just to squeeze in another hit when you can still maintain the same DPS without it.

[RhazeCain]

I'm able to sustain this MTing Faust in A1S without doing any triple fell cleave nonsense. Don't see the point in dumping all my CDs just to squeeze in another hit when you can still maintain the same DPS without it.

No, you can't maintain the same DPS without it. That should be obvious. Not to say it'll be a huge loss, but it'll be a loss to not do that. And it's 2 cooldowns, not all your cooldowns. I usually go for 3x Fell Cleave opener at the beginning when I'm OT, then switch to MT at 4 adds and Veng/Intuition are coming off cooldown nearer the end (which is when I want them anyway).

I'll get some flak for this but skip the BB combo unless you need aggro. Just stick to SE and refresh your SP as needed for sustained dps. Having sustained maim buff and SE debuff completly makes the extra 20 potency BB dishes out obsolete. SE or Maim dropping are your biggest dps losses.

An interesting thought, but gut reaction is to not believe that. When BB/SE alternate, there is never a loss of Maim or Eye .. Unless you have to stop to deal with fight mechanics. Does the occasional brief loss of these outweigh the constant loss of potency from SP combo over BB? .. I have no way to measure really.

Popping infuriate as early as you can before a pull so the timer is refreshed faster is a huge asset. ...

I've never realistically been able to time that with group. Seems clear that doing so would be a DPS increase (if for no other reason than crit bonus), but how big a difference really? I want Storm's Eye on before hitting pot/Berserk -> all 3 Fell Cleaves. So doing this I would gain what .. Tapering crit bonus on 6 or 7 GCDs right at the start? Anything else?

[Tyrial]

No, you can't maintain the same DPS without it. That should be obvious. Not to say it'll be a huge loss, but it'll be a loss to not do that. And it's 2 cooldowns, not all your cooldowns. I usually go for 3x Fell Cleave opener at the beginning when I'm OT, then switch to MT at 4 adds and Veng/Intuition are coming off cooldown nearer the end (which is when I want them anyway).

Because you raid with me and see my numbers, right? I average anywhere from 1050-1150 as MT on Faust in A1S without triple Fell Cleave. Using Vengeance and Raw is using pretty much all of your defensive CDs at once, which is stupid if you're actually tanking something. You also need to waste time sitting on stacks to be able to triple cleave in order for everything to line up perfectly unless there's some new magic rotation out there that I haven't seen.

[FallenWings]

Might I ask what rotation you use and whether or not you dip into Defiance at any point? Fell Cleave being a large chunk of our overall DPS (something like 20-25% depending on crits iirc) it's hard to believe that you would produce this result doing only double FC in your berserk window.

In regards to Pre-Infuriate: I believe the purpose now is to have your Berserk window closer(right after the first SE combo) so that it can line up with Battle Litany and Trick Attack for some big juicy Fell Cleaves as well as putting Berserk and various other offensive buffs on CD faster.

[SpookyGhost]

Record your rotation, no way to tell what you're doing wrong without knowing what you're doing at all.

[Blueskyy]

My dps for as1 faust as a ot (i take adds btw) is about 780

[VargasVermillion]

Well in AS 2 using decimate and overpower a lot helps. str acc, pots and rotations appropriate for fights is the general gist. I do less in AS 1 because I need to stay in defiance for longer than I assume some WARs do.

[Blueskyy]

Well in AS 2 using decimate and overpower a lot helps. str acc, pots and rotations appropriate for fights is the general gist. I do less in AS 1 because I need to stay in defiance for longer than I assume some WARs do.

I got 780 with defiance on after getting 3 adds