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    Flipside101's Avatar
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    Flips Fordays
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    How are WARs doing 1k+ DPS?

    I'm talking about sustained DPS. I'm i190 w/ eso weapon and I'm topping 850-900 on dummies. I'm still doing 3 Fell Cleaves per Berserk, and always have Fracture on. Is there something I'm missing? My SS is only 528 though...
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    Last edited by Flipside101; 08-11-2015 at 12:54 AM.

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    FallenHero's Avatar
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    King Nyxus
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    blow all your offensive cd's and str pot in your 3 fell cleave window, and alternate between storms eye combo and butchers block combo. Im i190 (all slaying accs and bonus 35pts in str) and do around 1050-1100 sustained. Use your berserk carefully, dont waste it on 2 fell cleaves if you can get a 3 fell cleave window shortly. If I had a healer dispelling my pacification every time the dps would be even higher.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Record your rotation, no way to tell what you're doing wrong without knowing what you're doing at all.
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    My dps for as1 faust as a ot (i take adds btw) is about 780
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    Val Vermillion
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    Well in AS 2 using decimate and overpower a lot helps. str acc, pots and rotations appropriate for fights is the general gist. I do less in AS 1 because I need to stay in defiance for longer than I assume some WARs do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    Well in AS 2 using decimate and overpower a lot helps. str acc, pots and rotations appropriate for fights is the general gist. I do less in AS 1 because I need to stay in defiance for longer than I assume some WARs do.
    I got 780 with defiance on after getting 3 adds
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenHero View Post
    blow all your offensive cd's and str pot in your 3 fell cleave window, and alternate between storms eye combo and butchers block combo. Im i190 (all slaying accs and bonus 35pts in str) and do around 1050-1100 sustained. Use your berserk carefully, dont waste it on 2 fell cleaves if you can get a 3 fell cleave window shortly. If I had a healer dispelling my pacification every time the dps would be even higher.
    I'm able to sustain this MTing Faust in A1S without doing any triple fell cleave nonsense. Don't see the point in dumping all my CDs just to squeeze in another hit when you can still maintain the same DPS without it.
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    I'll get some flak for this but skip the BB combo unless you need aggro. Just stick to SE and refresh your SP as needed for sustained dps. Having sustained maim buff and SE debuff completly makes the extra 20 potency BB dishes out obsolete. SE or Maim dropping are your biggest dps losses.
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    Iagainsti Kilamanjiro
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    Popping infuriate as early as you can before a pull so the timer is refreshed faster is a huge asset. Judged based on how early you can do this by how soon your party is ready for a pull, open with a tomahawk>heavy swing>unchained>BB combo>SE combo and switch to deliverance as soon as unchained drops is usually enough to keep aggro when you're MT. If you see the aggro bar rising on dps, just switch to defiance and swap a SP for a BB and resume your rotation in deliverance.
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    Rhaze Cain
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    I'm able to sustain this MTing Faust in A1S without doing any triple fell cleave nonsense. Don't see the point in dumping all my CDs just to squeeze in another hit when you can still maintain the same DPS without it.
    No, you can't maintain the same DPS without it. That should be obvious. Not to say it'll be a huge loss, but it'll be a loss to not do that. And it's 2 cooldowns, not all your cooldowns. I usually go for 3x Fell Cleave opener at the beginning when I'm OT, then switch to MT at 4 adds and Veng/Intuition are coming off cooldown nearer the end (which is when I want them anyway).


    I'll get some flak for this but skip the BB combo unless you need aggro. Just stick to SE and refresh your SP as needed for sustained dps. Having sustained maim buff and SE debuff completly makes the extra 20 potency BB dishes out obsolete. SE or Maim dropping are your biggest dps losses.
    An interesting thought, but gut reaction is to not believe that. When BB/SE alternate, there is never a loss of Maim or Eye .. Unless you have to stop to deal with fight mechanics. Does the occasional brief loss of these outweigh the constant loss of potency from SP combo over BB? .. I have no way to measure really.


    Popping infuriate as early as you can before a pull so the timer is refreshed faster is a huge asset. ...
    I've never realistically been able to time that with group. Seems clear that doing so would be a DPS increase (if for no other reason than crit bonus), but how big a difference really? I want Storm's Eye on before hitting pot/Berserk -> all 3 Fell Cleaves. So doing this I would gain what .. Tapering crit bonus on 6 or 7 GCDs right at the start? Anything else?
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