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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60

    Astrologian is in a good position right now.

    With a bit more experience under my belt more I think I can give my impression of the astrologian job.

    The job plays real fluid and is both fun and powerful on Cree you get use to the job.we are not scholars that can stay in cleric stance longer not are we white mages that can burst heal to incredible levels on the demand. We are for the most part though complete and do not need any buffs.

    I am able to hold my own in all raids and on savage one so far.my static only raids 6 hours a week so our progression is going to be slower then some people the only issue left with this job is our kicked out of both stances once in combat, shuffle and out two near useless cooldown abilities. Collective and opposition are truly weak cooldowns that prevent us from dealing with major mistakes like the other two healers have cooldowns for. I hope they redo opposition to not be a near 3 minute (stun useless?) which is only useful for upping the ticks of duirnal or aether self buff. Collective Con forcing the Astrologian to pretty much do nothing for 18 seconds is something else that should be looked at.

    200 potency regen is not enough to warrant our job being froze for near 18 seconds. Maybe allow it to turn our aspected ben into a super powered version of our spells during the cooldown like a % bump in the shield while it is up or up the regen. Shuffle being able to draw the same card at once is another small issue the job faces. If they would retool shuffle to no longer pull the same card you just pulled it would immensely fix alot of the range issues tied to the draw mechanic.

    Opposition is a prime ability that should be reworked to let the astrologian trully shine on its advantage and that is its versatility. Being able to shift stances in mid combat would allow the Astrologian to respond to emergency issues that some people have issues with being our weakness.

    But overall the astrologian is FAR FAR from being underpowered and are easily strong enough to do all content in the game and provide a great deal of buffs to raid groups and I know if people will give the Astrologian job a chance they will find the Astrologian does carry its own weight in every dungeon and raid in this game.
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    Last edited by Vlady; 08-07-2015 at 09:41 PM.

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    YuiSasaki's Avatar
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I would not sign, that ASTs dont need any buffs, especially nocturnal, CO and the cards could need a buff/rework.

    Yet, I agree with you that AST is fun and can (by what I've healed by now) hold its own quite well.

    Edit: inb4 the hate :X
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    Akyio Tayin
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Have you already gone and leveled SCH or WHM or both as people have suggested you, and experienced yourself the differences between older 2 healers and AST ? Or maybe at least kept an eye on how much more work your SCH or WHM partner is doing by AST in a team ?
    Or was the reason to create this thread to get even more attention on this forum by being the only one who finds AST fine ?
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    Have you already gone and leveled SCH or WHM or both as people have suggested you, and experienced yourself the differences between older 2 healers and AST ?
    Have you? Cuz I don't see a lv 60 SCH or WHM on your char :X
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by YuiSasaki View Post
    Have you? Cuz I don't see a lv 60 SCH or WHM on your char :X
    I have and I agree with Akyio. So pretend his words come from me.

    As for the thread itself, Vlady once again proves he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about and is just blindly defending AST. I'm not worried though, SE will be buffing AST in 3.1.
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by YuiSasaki View Post
    Have you? Cuz I don't see a lv 60 SCH or WHM on your char :X
    57 SCH now, and i see A LOT of differences in dungeons already.
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    57 SCH now, and i see A LOT of differences in dungeons already.
    I leveled SCH some time ago, too, yet I havn't seen that much of differences, except that one can cleric stance longer, thx to selene, which in fact is quite a difference..hmhm. Guess you have a point, didnt mean to offend either,it's just that, as of late I've seen too many ppl posting w/o having leveled to class past 52 (or even past 50..). Guess one could say once bitten, twice shy P:
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    Quote Originally Posted by YuiSasaki View Post
    I leveled SCH some time ago, too, yet I havn't seen that much of differences, except that one can cleric stance longer, thx to selene, which in fact is quite a difference..hmhm. Guess you have a point, didnt mean to offend either,it's just that, as of late I've seen too many ppl posting w/o having leveled to class past 52 (or even past 50..). Guess one could say once bitten, twice shy P:
    its ok . i started noticing already at lvl 50(i used to main SCH before heavensward). And particularly in the vault(57) last boss for AST was literally hell, there is just too much healing and too much MP needed, and if people do some mistakes then it becomes really hard. With SCH its really easy while sometimes it gets slightly challeging. And about the trash mobs..I just adlo, pop cleric stance and dps. i probably do 3-4 times more dps with SCH than AST on trash mobs, and have zero mp issues. I also get a lot more commendations for saving people's asses with SCH than i used to get with AST :/ thanks for 3 lustrates. though it makes me sad, i prefer playing AST.
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    Ysera Dei-ijla
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by YuiSasaki View Post
    Have you? Cuz I don't see a lv 60 SCH or WHM on your char :X
    Hi there, 60 SCH and AST. Take my assessment as you will.

    AST still trails behind SCH. Not having proper defense CD on call is noticeable & troublesome. I generally worked harder to heal on AST then on SCH. Lightspeed change is alright but it's still reliant on how many casts you can get off in that short amount of time, versus flat potency increase on a longer timer, from fairy.
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    Richard Butte
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    Have you already gone and leveled SCH or WHM or both as people have suggested you, and experienced yourself the differences between older 2 healers and AST ? Or maybe at least kept an eye on how much more work your SCH or WHM partner is doing by AST in a team ?
    Or was the reason to create this thread to get even more attention on this forum by being the only one who finds AST fine ?
    I have.

    SCH does pretty much everything AST can do, except better, safer, and faster and without going OOM. The only thing AST really has over it is the ability to restore TP/MP to other party members.

    As Sanguisio said...

    AST vs content = fine manageable
    AST vs SCH/WHM = the fat kid in pe, has a chance but why would you.
    Anyone insisting upon bringing one to content in AST's current state is gimping their static.
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