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  1. #11
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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Character
    Susubi Subi
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    currently this is how strong the other healers are together...... and this is just wtf

    SCH / WHM combo

    Presence of Mind ( Haste)
    Divine Seal (Healing buff)
    Benediction (emergancy heal)
    Asylum (Healing cooldown)
    Assize (Healing cooldown )
    Tetragrammaton (Emergancy heal)
    Virus (Debuff)
    Eye for an Eye (Buff)
    Medica II (Hot)
    Regen (hot)
    Adloquium (Shield)
    Succor (Shield)
    Sacred Soil (Buff)
    Lustrate (emergancy heal)
    Indomitability (Healing cooldown)
    Deployment Tactics (Healing cooldown shields)
    Emergency Tactics (Healing cooldown)
    Dissipation (Healing cooldown)
    Whispering Dawn (hot)
    Fey Covenant (buff)
    Fey Illumination (healing cooldown)
    Fey Caress (healing cooldown)
    Fey Wind (Buff)

    AST/WHM combo
    Presence of Mind ( Haste)
    Divine Seal (Healing buff)
    Benediction (emergancy heal)
    Asylum (Healing cooldown)
    Assize (Healing cooldown )
    Tetragrammaton (Emergancy heal)
    Virus (Debuff)
    Eye for an Eye (Buff)
    Medica II (Hot)
    Regen (hot)
    Lightspeed (mobility buff)
    Essential Dignity (Emergancy cooldown)
    Aspected Benefic (hot/shield)
    Aspected Helios (hot/sheil)
    Synastry (Healing cooldown)
    Collective Unconscious (Hot/buff)
    Cards (Buffs)

    SCH/ AST combo

    Virus (Debuff)
    Eye for an Eye (Buff)
    Medica II (Hot)
    Regen (hot)
    Adloquium (Shield)
    Succor (Shield)
    Sacred Soil (Buff)
    Lustrate (emergancy heal)
    Indomitability (Healing cooldown)
    Deployment Tactics (Healing cooldown shields)
    Emergency Tactics (Healing cooldown)
    Dissipation (Healing cooldown)
    Whispering Dawn (hot)
    Fey Covenant (buff)
    Fey Illumination (healing cooldown)
    Fey Caress (healing cooldown)
    Fey Wind (Buff)
    Lightspeed (mobility buff)
    Essential Dignity (Emergancy cooldown)
    Aspected Benefic (hot/shield)
    Aspected Helios (hot/sheil)
    Synastry (Healing cooldown)
    Collective Unconscious (Hot/buff)
    Cards (Buffs)

    Loook at the difference..... ITS far to large.... whilst WHM/SCH are perfect in every way... why on earth would u need a brand new healer when the 2 current healers have EVERYTHING
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    Last edited by Yhisa; 08-10-2015 at 11:30 AM.

  2. #12
    Player
    ckc22's Avatar
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    Haha typical astrologian "Just nerf whm and sch into the ground while buffing us."
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  3. #13
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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Haha typical astrologian "Just nerf whm and sch into the ground while buffing us."
    Lol? I dont think I have ever heard ANY other astrologian call for white mage or scholar nerfs.
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  4. #14
    Player
    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Susubi Subi
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    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Well heck why we are at it give me 10 reasons why they should take a dark knight over a Astrologian? The logic you are presenting is the same as that absurd question I just asked. You tell everyone for last week that they must suck if they cannot do such and such as an astrologian then now you are wanting SE to nerf two jobs because you had a whim?

    You do not have to respond to me I do not mind.

    But I will bite.

    1. Astrologian is the only healer that provides tp regenerating abilities for all jobs.
    2. Astrologian can provide mana free buffs that enhance dps.
    3. Astrologian is the only job that can reduce all cooldowns by 20%. Once more requires coordination with team.
    4. Astrologian can provide defensive card buffs on top of tanks normal defensive buffs.
    5. Astrologian can provide a flexible job that performs both jobs without having to wait for esoteric for white mage or scholar.
    6. Astrologian can provide a significant burst via balance once you learn to communicate with your dps compatriots. I have already given an example but flame on if someone wants to open that can again. An astro can provide around 500-600 ish personal dps going all out along with the strong buffs which enhances group dps as well. I have yet to see people post dps parses between an enhanced astrologian group and non enhanced so until proven wrong it is a valid statement that rivals Scholars.
    7. We can provide strong triage healing while being mobile which is for alot of the fight which people seem to never even mention. Lightspeed+noc shield is capable of provide a upfronted 6-7k burst heal +shield without having to stop. GCD can be a bitch I will admit.
    8. Is disable a reason ;o ?? Not sure what all it works on?
    9. Because some people are good at the job and might like it over white mage and scholar. To try to discourage them and or force them to change is pretty elitist. And people flame me stating I should be black listed from all statics and groups?
    10. I did not call for white mage and scholar to be nerfed. Just because you cannot make it as an astrologian does not mean you should ask for white/scholar nerfs out of spite.

    Lol.
    ERRM u lost u way soo bad those are not 10 reasons u started to talk out of ur ass pass 4
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  5. #15
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    Muahbec's Avatar
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Haha typical astrologian "Just nerf whm and sch into the ground while buffing us."
    This is the first "nerf whm and sch" type of thread.......
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  6. #16
    Player
    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    ERRM u lost u way soo bad those are not 10 reasons u started to talk out of ur ass pass 4
    I am getting the feeling you had something bad happen to you and just wanting to melt down on the forums. So that should automatically be another +4.
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  7. #17
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Muahbec View Post
    This is the first "nerf whm and sch" type of thread.......
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Lol? I dont think I have ever heard ANY other astrologian call for white mage or scholar nerfs.
    There are plenty of posts strewn about this forum asking for buffs that are so strong that they basically give astros abilities that purely outclass the ones they stole from or for nerfs to the other classes.
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  8. #18
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Omega
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    There are plenty of posts strewn about this forum asking for buffs that are so strong that they basically give astros abilities that purely outclass the ones they stole from or for nerfs to the other classes.
    Have you seen these forums lately? People are asking for originality, they don't want AST to be a copy-paste type of healer.
    these " buff us to the skies" type of threads have ended a long while ago.
    I hope that now you will stop bashing AST players only because you want your SCH to be secure.
    And if you're going to blame someone for the job, blame the dev team who decided to turn them into hybrids, don't throw your hate on AST players who wants their job to be fun, powerful, and unique.
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    Last edited by Muahbec; 08-10-2015 at 11:33 AM.

  9. #19
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    Anubis Nephthys
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    This guy is putting a lot of effort into his little troll here.
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  10. #20
    Player
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    There are plenty of posts strewn about this forum asking for buffs that are so strong that they basically give astros abilities that purely outclass the ones they stole from or for nerfs to the other classes.
    What does that have to do with your statement of another astrologian asking for white mage/scholar nerfs? This is the first one ive seen in weeks. And I agree the absurdity of buffs alot of people are asking for for astrologians is not going to happen. At most we will get cooldown tweaks and I hope a opening for stance dancing in combat...
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