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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Susubi Subi
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    Astrologian Lv 90

    Fix to AST the real reason

    currently i have been playing AST alot and well it have an identity crisis + Mimic of the current healers but is weaker in healing all together sooo i have been for the last few days comparing each healer and i think i found the issue and also a fix to make AST

    ALL CHANGES BELOW IS TO MAKE A TRINITY BETWEEN THE 3 HEALERS SO ALL HEALERS HAVE A WEAKNESS WHICH OTHER HEALERS CAN MAKE UP FOR


    WHM
    Currently WHM is a beast in terms of healing they have soo many cooldowns which all provide them healing boosts to there heals so i think its about time to change that so i propose this to change them

    = Remove there HOTS
    = Remove there mitigation (eye for eye and virus)

    doing this will turn WHM into a pure healing job with RAW numbers in both healing and DPS


    SCH

    Currently SCH is the best healer in terms of mitigating damage and having there pets provide buffs + off heal when needed so i would like to list changes to them

    =Remove HoT on EoS
    =Rework all there cooldowns to only effect mitigation(shields) only
    =Remove Any buffs and debuffs a SCH can provide (Example Virus/ Eye for Eye)

    This would turn SCH into a PURE mitigation healer (shields) which focus on mitigating the group damage received whilst providing Damage over time spells to help with DPS and do support healing with pet

    AST
    Currently AST main tool kit is the cards and is currently mimics over the other 2 healers currently so here is a change to allow them to be there own healer and not have an identity crisis

    = Change Healing spells to only do Healing over time effects
    = Change Cards to provide Powerful Buffs to group and keep the system fast and fluid
    = Change DoTs to provide Debuffs that mitigate boss damage output so that the healing is smooth and steady
    = Remove Sects

    This will Change AST to be a Enchantress job that supports healing with HoTs and provide Buffs/Debuffs to help with mitigation unlike SCH with shields we do our mitigation Through debuffing the target or buffing players

    With all these changes done to these healers we can now have a full trinity between the 3 healers to support each other weaknesses and i will show u why

    WHM / SCH
    The goal with this combo is to allow the SCH to mitigate(Shields) damage and provide support healing (pet) whilst the WHM provide powerful healing and allowing both provide DPS when needed

    WHM / AST
    The goal with this combo is to allow the AST to mitigate(Buff/Debuff) damage and provide support healing (HoTs) whilst the WHM provide powerful healing and allowing both to provide dps when needed

    SCH / AST
    The goal with this combo is to Stack as much mitigation(Shield/Buffs/ Debuffs) Whilst providing steady healing to group through (Pet/ Hots) and allowing both to provide dps when needed

    so now the trinity healers are

    WHM = Raw healing power and provide dps
    SCH = Mitigation with shields and support healing with pet
    AST = Mitigation with buffs/debuffs and support healing with HoTs

    so now they all have weaknesses and strengths Whilst WHM can provide powerful healing it lacks mitigation skills to help with the incoming damage but make up for it for its raw healing power...... Whilst both AST/SCH provide powerful mitigation but lacks Strong healing but make up for it with it supporting healing with Pet + Hots

    this is how i see it anyway and would like it to be changed too but people will most likely complain and flame at the idea of it all
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    Last edited by Yhisa; 08-10-2015 at 10:56 AM.

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    WingsOfAzrael's Avatar
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    Emarial Artayu
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    White Mage Lv 90
    all i can say is: wtf are these nerfs? no just no, stop trolling
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    6/10 troll.
    Could have been more though out though.
    Good idea with the poor grammar, gave it a touch of believability.
    Overall, it made me chuckle a little.
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Yshira if you are having difficulty with the astrologian you can always swap to the white mage and scholar since you seem to enjoy them more so? Calling for two entire jobs to be reworked is something that will never happen. Astrologian needs some changes on the cooldown front but nerfing the other two jobs will never happen.
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    Susubi Subi
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    wait what are u people blind or somethink.............. Name me 10 reasons why u should take an AST over a WHM/SCH combo.......... because AST do not bring anythink to the table that the other healers can do already...... Once u can list me 10 reason to why u should take and AST/WHM or AST/SCH over a WHM/SCH.... until u can give me 10 reasons u all just Flaming for nothing.......... because WHM/SCH are far far far to strong together and with there current skills kicks any new healer to the side because they can do EVERYTHING

    UNTIL U CAN GIVE ME 10 REASONS to why u should take an AST over current healers im not going to reply to u
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    Veigas Shiffer
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I agree with you a tiny bit though.
    AST could be a HoT specialized healer just like SCH is a shield specialized healer.
    That would fit the "Time mage" theme really well.

    But, messing with the other two jobs is completely unnecessary.
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    Nefring two good jobs because one is having problems is a horrible fix for everyone involved.
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    I starting reading and saw the comments to nerf the other healers and I stopped right there. NO. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by echoica View Post
    I starting reading and saw the comments to nerf the other healers and I stopped right there. NO. LOL

    its not nerfing the healers...... its making them balance so u can mix and match them to any combo..... currently WHM/ SCH got everything when they only ment to be RAW HEALING (WHM) MITIGATION / SUPPORT (SCH)...... but nope they both way to strong especially when put together... which leave any new healers SE makes worthless and redundant due to how powerful WHM/SCH are together.... they have 0 weakness when Solo or Together
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    currently this is how strong the other healers are together...... and this is just wtf

    SCH / WHM combo

    Presence of Mind ( Haste)
    Divine Seal (Healing buff)
    Benediction (emergancy heal)
    Asylum (Healing cooldown)
    Assize (Healing cooldown )
    Tetragrammaton (Emergancy heal)
    Virus (Debuff)
    Eye for an Eye (Buff)
    Medica II (Hot)
    Regen (hot)
    Adloquium (Shield)
    Succor (Shield)
    Sacred Soil (Buff)
    Lustrate (emergancy heal)
    Indomitability (Healing cooldown)
    Deployment Tactics (Healing cooldown shields)
    Emergency Tactics (Healing cooldown)
    Dissipation (Healing cooldown)
    Whispering Dawn (hot)
    Fey Covenant (buff)
    Fey Illumination (healing cooldown)
    Fey Caress (healing cooldown)
    Fey Wind (Buff)

    AST/WHM combo
    Presence of Mind ( Haste)
    Divine Seal (Healing buff)
    Benediction (emergancy heal)
    Asylum (Healing cooldown)
    Assize (Healing cooldown )
    Tetragrammaton (Emergancy heal)
    Virus (Debuff)
    Eye for an Eye (Buff)
    Medica II (Hot)
    Regen (hot)
    Lightspeed (mobility buff)
    Essential Dignity (Emergancy cooldown)
    Aspected Benefic (hot/shield)
    Aspected Helios (hot/sheil)
    Synastry (Healing cooldown)
    Collective Unconscious (Hot/buff)
    Cards (Buffs)

    SCH/ AST combo

    Virus (Debuff)
    Eye for an Eye (Buff)
    Medica II (Hot)
    Regen (hot)
    Adloquium (Shield)
    Succor (Shield)
    Sacred Soil (Buff)
    Lustrate (emergancy heal)
    Indomitability (Healing cooldown)
    Deployment Tactics (Healing cooldown shields)
    Emergency Tactics (Healing cooldown)
    Dissipation (Healing cooldown)
    Whispering Dawn (hot)
    Fey Covenant (buff)
    Fey Illumination (healing cooldown)
    Fey Caress (healing cooldown)
    Fey Wind (Buff)
    Lightspeed (mobility buff)
    Essential Dignity (Emergancy cooldown)
    Aspected Benefic (hot/shield)
    Aspected Helios (hot/sheil)
    Synastry (Healing cooldown)
    Collective Unconscious (Hot/buff)
    Cards (Buffs)

    Loook at the difference..... ITS far to large.... whilst WHM/SCH are perfect in every way... why on earth would u need a brand new healer when the 2 current healers have EVERYTHING
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    Last edited by Yhisa; 08-10-2015 at 11:30 AM.

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