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Thread: Oh god, DKs!

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    Alisi's Avatar
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    Oh god, DKs!

    What am I doing wrong when I heal DKs?! It's like in no matter the dungeon level I'm in, a DK always makes me spam my heals. I just got done in nm SV and I was going OOM and using divine seal, while spamming cure 2, just to keep the tank up on trash pulls. We still wiped a couple times. I was in bray yesterday for my leveling roulette daily and the tank was apparently level 60 with 180 ilvl gear on and it was still a struggle to keep him up.

    They aren't making stupid tanking mistakes like losing aggro or having the mobs face us. Grit is always on, along with the other CDs. It's not really bad tanking on their part.

    Does anyone have an helpful hints and tips? My WHM is level 52. I think one of my biggest problems is how fast the tank loses HP. It's like a second in and he's lost 25% of his HP. After that, he's near death in another second or two. Benediction is nice but I don't have Benediction in dungeons lower than 50 and those are the majority I get.
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    Zaj Quilos
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    I find once in a while i have a DRK who doesn't drop to 25% health after every attack.
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    It will be hard, especially since Grit is not as good as Defiance, and the job doesn't have a shield. In Bray, the job is locked out of Soueater, which is a key tool for mitigation. Really just keep Regen up if possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    It will be hard, especially since Grit is not as good as Defiance, and the job doesn't have a shield. In Bray, the job is locked out of Soueater, which is a key tool for mitigation. Really just keep Regen up if possible.
    What? For one grit is better than defiance, defiance barely does anything unless you're topped off or actively getting healed.*Soul eater is a self heal, not mitigation. Honestly the drk op are probably going aren't poping cd's or aren't in grit or something. The class has very good defensive capabilities that the vast majority of their user base ignore.
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    Self healing is a form of mitigation, with that said I cringe when I am locked out of it because I know the healer is in for a rougher ride. I'll agree with the cd's though, I'll pop shadowskin if we have a group of 4 or more.
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    Akyio Tayin
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    I dont know DK skills, but really, i had lots of DK's(way more than warriors) that needed very little heal. I usually feel stressed out only when i see warriors.
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    Zara Diaspora
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    Most of the dark knights I heal it's not so much about their skills (though those who don't use their cool downs doesn't help) but a lot of it, for me, has to do with their gear. As I'm slowly reaching the level 60 on White mage and playing experts on SCH, their gear is the major issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Self healing is a form of mitigation
    Well, going into semantics, it literally is not.
    Mitigation means making something less than what it was.

    You first need to be able to mitigate the hit into something your HP pool can withstand, then recover (into which self-healing falls) faster than you're taking damage. If the hit deals more than 100% of your HP, you need to mitigate it - healing it afterwards is impossible.

    Mitigation also happens pre-emptively while healing is a reaction.
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    DK!? DONKEY KONG!

    ..now I have the donkey Kong song stuck in my head lol.
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    DK's are fine, some might be a bit new to tanking, but the job itself works fine.
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