Loot system suggestions, thoughts, and your opinion!

[Fahad]

Hello All..,
I have been thinking about the loot system and how can it be enhanced. I still think the current one is very fair and works fine. Also I like the new "Loot Rule" feature we had in 3.0.
I have some ideas for what might be a more useful system for FFXIV, since FFXIV allow you to play any class and any job in one character, these suggestions comes in favor for those leveling multiple classes/jobs.

The current system as follows:
Primary--->NEED conditions: Item's class/job must match current player's Class/Job
Secondary--->GREED conditions: anything else
PASS

What I have in mind is some suggestions that I would love to hear your thoughts about.

SUGGESTION 1: This one is easiest to apply in my opinion and less complex.
Primary--->NEED conditions: Item's class/job must match current player's class/job AND required level to use the item must be no more than 5 levels below current level.
Secondary--->GREEDconditions: anything else
PASS
this way, the system reduces NEED abuse and give others a higher chance at the item.
E.X: level 35 PGL CANNOT NEED on PGL items level 29 and below.

SUGGESTION 2: this one is similar to suggestion 1 but with a little twist but I believe it is fair.
Primary--->NEEDconditions: Item's required level must be equal or 1,2,3,4, or 5 levels higher than your current class or alternative class's level.
Secondary--->GREEDconditions: anything else
PASS
with this system, people can level their classes/jobs simultaneously with good chance at items.
E.X : CNJ item level 25 dropped, then player with current class ARC who have level 20 CNJ can roll need on the item.

SUGGESTION 3: this one is kind of a mix between suggestion 1 and 2.
Primary---->NEEDconditions: Item's class/job must match current player's class/job
Secondary---->Alt NEEDconditions: Item's class/job must match alt's class/job AND be equal or 1,2,3,4, or 5 levels higher than alt class/job.
Tertiary--->GREEDconditions: anything else
PASS

So, any thoughts? is there something I overlooked? got something else in mind?

[sirDarts]

I quite like your suggestion, though I would make it simpler:
NEED - only on upgrades, so anything that's ABOVE your current iLvl for the current slot.
GREED - anything else

Btw, you can edit your post to avoid the 1000char limit.

[Fahad]

I quite like your suggestion, though I would make it simpler:
NEED - only on upgrades, so anything that's ABOVE your current iLvl for the current slot.
GREED - anything else

Btw, you can edit your post to avoid the 1000char limit.

thank you ^^ im a complete noob when it comes to forums, sorry ^^;

[amihavingfunyet]

NEED - only on upgrades, so anything that's ABOVE your current iLvl for the current slot.

What if I want to farm items for glamour? I'll just have to put on lower ilvl gear and actually make the run slower.
Or what if lower ilvl gear is actually better (BRD WoD chest for example)?

Opinion: The system is fine as is.

[sirDarts]

What if I want to farm items for glamour? I'll just have to put on lower ilvl gear and actually make the run slower.
Or what if lower ilvl gear is actually better (BRD WoD chest for example)?

Opinion: The system is fine as is.

So make it that you can only NEED on stuff that's above the highest iLvl in your possession that you can use.
If you are going for glamour, you should have the same chance on getting it as everyone else = GREED.

[amihavingfunyet]

So make it that you can only NEED on stuff that's above the highest iLvl in your possession that you can use.
If you are going for glamour, you should have the same chance on getting it as everyone else = GREED.

I sure know I would run even less content with pugs if this would be in the game. Why would I even queue as healer, if I can't even roll need on healer items. And what about my second point? WoD came out quite a bit after Poetics/FCoB, it's not impossible to have either i130 chest. But the WoD chest still is better thanks to secondary stats. Am I now out of luck even though it is a clear upgrade for me?

[sirDarts]

I sure know I would run even less content with pugs if this would be in the game. Why would I even queue as healer, if I can't even roll need on healer items. And what about my second point? WoD came out quite a bit after Poetics/FCoB, it's not impossible to have either i130 chest. But the WoD chest still is better thanks to secondary stats. Am I now out of luck even though it is a clear upgrade for me?

Why would you need items that are not an upgrade? For glamour? Glamour is just as "big" of a reason as gearing alts, or glamouring alts, or anything else = GREED.

As for the iLvl being weird sometimes, yes it is and should be fixed, but that's another issue.