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  1. #251
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    Nicobo's Avatar
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyranthes View Post
    I thought you need 3/4 votes to get kicked?
    Since the player being voted is not paticipated to the vote, therefore 2/3 votes (the initiator + 1 vote) to get kicked ^^;
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  2. #252
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    Nicobo's Avatar
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    Nico Nico
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    Goblin
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Pervy View Post
    ... but reading the air of when best to keep pushing forward and when to slow down....
    You have my commendation!

    P.S. your driving example and the P.S. also have my commendations! ^^;
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  3. #253
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    Naliee's Avatar
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    Siru Kissaki
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Garotte14 View Post
    Sorry bud, but you're mistaken. The tank does not set the flow. Regardless of what you might think, there are 4 ppl in the dungeon. Not just you. The party sets the flow. If 3 ppl want to you to pull another set of mobs, then do it. If the healer is pulling another mob, it means he knows he can keep you alive. If that happens then you, the tank, shouldn't have this mentality of, "if you want to tank it then go ahead." I'm tired of the "me, me, me" mindset. You're playing an mmo with other ppl. The party sets the flow. If you want to set your own pace, please go player a single player game
    You are right, there is 3 other people with you in that dungeon. But it's a respectful thing to do that if tank pulls only one set you don't go running around pulling more.

    Maybe tank is first timer?
    Maybe tank is tanking for the first time?
    Maaaybe tank isn't that confident about his/her skills to pull bigger pulls?
    Maybe, just MAYBE tank doesn't think/"trust" that group can kill fast enough big pulls that CDs don't run out and healer knows what to do?

    I main WHM and tanking doesn't come that naturally for me but I really enjoy DRK. And I can honestly say that if you go ahead and pull more than I have, I most likely let you tank those mobs.
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    Last edited by Naliee; 08-29-2015 at 01:39 AM. Reason: because limits!

  4. #254
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    Arabian_Wolf's Avatar
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    Majestic Wolf
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Naliee View Post
    You are right, there is 3 other people with you in that dungeon. But it's a respectful thing to do that if tank pulls only one set you don't go running around pulling more.

    Maybe tank is first timer?
    Maybe tank is tanking for the first time?
    Maaaybe tank isn't that confident about his/her skills to pull bigger pulls?
    Maybe, just MAYBE tank doesn't think/"trust" that group can kill fast enough big pulls that CDs don't run out and healer knows what to do?

    I main WHM and tanking doesn't come that naturally for me but I really enjoy DRK. And I can honestly say that if you go ahead and pull more than I have, I most likely let you tank those mobs.
    Also add when the tank have lag spikes or just bit of lag.
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    Thank you whoever used my RaF code & if you need anything PM me here or /tell in-game.

  5. #255
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    Fyce's Avatar
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DkDerek View Post
    The entitled tanks are driving me up the wall. Let me die tank, i probably take less damage than you anyways. If you have that mentality, you're terrible. Simple.
    Yes, go ahead and pull everything you want. Tanks and Healers are here to fix your entitled bad DPS habits and mistakes anyway, right?
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  6. #256
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    Pentt's Avatar
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Op title is kind of misleading, you weren't booted for explaining, you were booted for purposely refusing to participate.
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  7. #257
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    Arabian_Wolf's Avatar
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    Majestic Wolf
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Trixxy View Post
    Nearly all bosses in casual content / hard-mode dungeons are a simple tank 'n spank.
    Why even bother explaining "mechanics" that a good healer can easily fix by throwing out a couple more heals.

    It's not about people being impatient, it's about a one-in a dozen runs where an entitled player feels the need to leech commendations.
    Not really, most bosses being tank n' spank is an extreme exaggeration unless you cruise those content with synced overgeared lvl60 players.
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    Thank you whoever used my RaF code & if you need anything PM me here or /tell in-game.

  8. #258
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    bigbaldwolf86's Avatar
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    Kira Zephyr
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    Odin
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    I have a story about a recent dungeon run on DD. I went in as an AST as I'm levelling it at the moment. We had a high level tank who was synched, a first timer drg and a lv 60 bard who was obviously synched. The bard refused to stay in the light to avoid the high damage from the boss flying around. I told the bard 4 times to move into the light with no response. When we got to the boss they were doing the same thing and taking loads of damage. Eventually I just let them die while the rest of us finished the battle. The bard then called us all noobs and said I forgot to heal them. I told them I let them die because they refuse to follow the basic dungeon mechanics. They left shortly after. I didn't feel good about letting them die but they clearly weren't a good team mate to begin with when they won't follow the dungeon mechanics.
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  9. #259
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    Since the player being voted is not paticipated to the vote, therefore 2/3 votes (the initiator + 1 vote) to get kicked ^^;
    ...Which, ultimately, is exactly the problem. The initiator gets to remove 1 person's voting power. Not so much an issue in 8 person content but very noticeable effect in 4 person content.

    If the OP had initiated the vote against one of those let-me-pull-for-the-tank clowns, it would have turned out very differently. Essentially, he's punished for not being the first to start a vote. (But on the plus side, tank instaqueues :D)
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  10. #260
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    Dinadan's Avatar
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    Elhaym Houten
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 70
    The tome grinding in this game has really led to poor community, where people are only concerned about getting their tomes as quickly as they can.
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