Sch from 42+

[SirShuffles]

I already have THM 26 and i don't really need stoneskin (that for WHM job) so ill stick to protect and swiftcast

I used to say that too out of pure laziness because lvling CNJ bored me to tears.
Then I got Stoneskin and I was like "Well crap This is pretty nice."

Also, if you plan to lvl AST, Lightspeed+Stoneskin just feels like cheating.
Its useful top get no matter what healer you want to run, and it stacks with Galvanize I believe.
Am I wrong?

[finders]

You should be using all your tools as a SCH. I main SCH and I find it uses almost double the number of hotbar slots as any other job. My cross class skills are: Cleric Stance, Protect, Swiftcast, Aero and Stoneskin. (All of these are important, especially now Graniteskin is gone.)

Also, quick tip: learn to use your pet in Obey, and never ever ever macro Embrace to any of your SCH skills, it is just bad.

how is embrace on physick and adlo bad? if you stopcast your pet abilities with its spells it will stop casting embrace and cast that ability. idk guess I'm just bad than

[WingsOfAzrael]

how is embrace on physick and adlo bad? if you stopcast your pet abilities with its spells it will stop casting embrace and cast that ability. idk guess I'm just bad than

its better to manually control it without a macro

[DarkerOrange]

because if you need physick + embrace you can press 2 buttons to do it, and having them separate is incredibly useful for splitting healing and allowing you to continue putting out heals while DPSing. Having 2 separate GCDs is one of SCHs biggest strengths, and by tying your faerie's GCD to yours you remove this entirely.

If all you intend to do with your SCH is dungeon running and other casual stuff, then fair enough, but progression raiding practically requires you to have full control of your Faerie.

[Wobble]

This is PS4, (WHM) empty slot is for lv60 spell once I find it.
Edit: I use the R2 + L2 / L2 + R2 setup also and the horizontal bar at bottom so I can see any CD's when they are off cool down.


Hotbar three not pictured I use for nukes.

Edit have taken protect off one and left on 2 since I was having confusion from going between this and AST.

[YuiSasaki]

how is embrace on physick and adlo bad? if you stopcast your pet abilities with its spells it will stop casting embrace and cast that ability. idk guess I'm just bad than

as pointed out by others, it's more useful to micro-manage Eos/Selene instead of binding Embrace to a spell.

On a side note, I wonder if Stoneskin is actually viable on SCH (except for pre-fight buffing). In the end one always fares better with an Adloq(especially on crit) .. or am I mistaken?

[Saggo]

On a side note, I wonder if Stoneskin is actually viable on SCH (except for pre-fight buffing). In the end one always fares better with an Adloq(especially on crit) .. or am I mistaken?

Pre-fight and any time you have downtime. Lots of bosses have charges or oddball mechanics where damage pauses because a Stoneskin and Adlo is better than a Stoneskin or Adlo. If you're really splitting hairs, if HP is topped off, you ask does your Adlo heal for 5%/10% of their HP? But usually, unless it's downtime, I find they're always going to need HP topped off too.

[Sebazy]

TBH the biggest issue with macroing embrace onto your bread and butter abilities is simply that macros don't queue correctly and thus are always a fraction slower than simply using an ability directly.

I used to use macro embraces (along with a direct embrace key for when the need arose) to great effect putting out huge HPS numbers but no matter how hard I tried, I was always behind where I wanted to be on DPS. The real eye opener for me was grouping up with a friend, stripping all gear to ensure our stats were precisely the same and simply chain casting physic for a minute, myself using my macros and them using a direct hotkey. Within 5 casts it was plainly visible that they were casting quicker and whilst I forget the exact numbers, they were roughly getting an extra cast off per minute or thereabouts. That's pretty huge.

Now I use a bank of G-Keys on my keyboard to control where my embrace is going whilst using traditional F-Key targeting and plain hotkeys for my own personal healing. It took a little practice and I must admit, I wish I made the change a few weeks before Savage hit but eh, it's paid off massively now I'm comfortable with it with very respectable DPS/HPS figures all round <3