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  1. #1
    Player
    Mikhaill's Avatar
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    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70

    Healer LB animation lock.

    I request a fix.
    You either.

    A. Let the healer friggin' move right after the animation and not stand for an additional 5 seconds so I can die.
    B. After people raise, have a 3 second 'hallowed ground' so to speak, to get back in position.
    C. Let healer be immune during healer LB.

    Or do all.

    Why? Did A4 normal, used healer LB, looked cool, died in an instant and did everyone else. It's annoying.
    Dunno if right place to post so sorry lol.
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    Kumori_Kumo's Avatar
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    Kumori Kumo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 70
    I would honestly take the animation lock if it just didn't give everyone weakness/brink of death.
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    Eudyptes's Avatar
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    Summer Lebeau
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    I agree. The only times I've ever needed to use it were in situations that were already so chaotic that I just end up dead anyway cause of said lock. It seems kinda counterproductive as it is now.
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    Shiki Lockhart
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    It is all about timing. Find the right moment where is safe and do it. Same thing happens with DD LB's, if they start casting when a mechanic will pop they will die and not do damage and waste the LB bar for nothing, so yeah...
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    Last edited by Shiki_Lockhart; 08-09-2015 at 08:22 PM.

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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    The Healer is not a special snowflake everyone has to deal with an animation lock. It's all about strat and finding your opening. I know it's not easy with a bunch of people in chat typing "LB3 HEALER WTF ARE YOU DOING!?!?!?!?" But ignore it and find that opening before you go for broke. The Healer LB3 is a last ditch move but yeah it would be nice if people res without a debuff on them because it's easy for people to insta die. Maybe even change it to people res with a 1 minute "blessing" buff that greatly increases stats to make it more effective as that last chance LB.
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    Danielle Leclair
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Healer LB has 3 major flaws

    1 - It doesn't restore caster MP. Everytime i was forced to cast LB3, id find myself completely drained after trying to keep everyone alive as much as possible.

    2 - Thanks to aggro and animation lock, i'll most likely die if i cast LB3. And even if i don't die, party won't last long due the simple reason i have no mp for trying to keep everyone up till the very last second. It doesn't help either that the raise animation ends somewhat at the same time that the iframe of LB cast animation, so by the time tanks get up and try to get aggro off me, i'll be already getting cleaved for days.

    3 - To add up for me being without mp (and most likely the other healer as well if he's not dead), everyone else gets up without protect and 15% weaker than to what they died to so it's only a matter of a aoe or 2 for everyone to die once again.

    I understand that SE doesn't want us to spam healer LB to clutch our way through fights, but the LB3 is ridiculously rng based with the success rate usually below 10%. I don't even care about iframes for the whole party, just increasing the caster iframe duration compared to the party, removing the weakness debuff being raised by the LB and restoring everyone MP/TP meters to full would be enough to make it somewhat viable and not almost certainly make the party wipe once more like the way it is now.
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    Last edited by mp-please; 08-09-2015 at 10:02 PM.

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    Akyio Tayin
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Long time after using LB3 time by time i actually thought that LB3 for healer was "ress all, and suicide yourself for that", until one time i was magically alive after casting it.

    It still is however game changing in certain places, A4 particularly being the example where it can change everything.

    Also as someone said about "timing LB3", you can't really "time" it as majority of people are dead and both tanks usually too when you have to cast it, so most aggro is towards you anyway
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    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    E'dok Edok
    World
    Masamune
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    Also as someone said about "timing LB3", you can't really "time" it as majority of people are dead and both tanks usually too when you have to cast it, so most aggro is towards you anyway
    Sure you can. You can time the LB so that you won't get hit in the face by any telegraphed mechanics (AoEs etc, such as Rav EX in then out circles).
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    Selahdis Gharl
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    Sure you can. You can time the LB so that you won't get hit in the face by any telegraphed mechanics (AoEs etc, such as Rav EX in then out circles).
    I think Akyio means that you don't really have the time to wait in some situations. If most/all of your party is dead and especially if aggro is on you, you cannot take the time to run around and find a safe place.
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    MXMoondoggie's Avatar
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    Pikarin Makai
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BroodingFicus View Post
    I think Akyio means that you don't really have the time to wait in some situations. If most/all of your party is dead and especially if aggro is on you, you cannot take the time to run around and find a safe place.
    In that situation you probably won't get it off anyway before you are dead. A Healer with boss aggro will die almost instantly. You want to be using it before everyone else has died when you see there is no way to recover the damage done through normal means. Tank and one DPS alive plus you with low mana for example. Even if you get the other Healer or a SMN up you will struggle to keep anyone else alive and res plus the time it takes will eat away at the time you have before enrage so pop the LB3 then protect when people are up.
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    Last edited by MXMoondoggie; 08-10-2015 at 08:23 AM.

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